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Portland Tribune: Expanded Background Checks a Positive Step For Oregonians

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Stomper, Apr 22, 2015.

  1. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    I just saw this on the Portland Tribune's website....

    http://pamplinmedia.com/pt/10-opini...-a-positive-step-for-oregonians#disqus_thread



    Here's the comment that I left there o_O:

    30,000 Americans die from gunshot wounds every year... what isn't told is the breakdown of those fatalities. A HUGE portion of that is from justifiable homocide (you know killing a bad guy who's threatening others), then there's a small portion killed by accidental discharge, suicide another small portion, and murders are an even smaller portion.

    If 30,000 deaths annually is a crisis and/or an epidemic then consider the following:

    The Journal of Patient Safety recently published a study which concluded that as many as 440,000 people die each year from preventable medical errors in hospitals. Tens of thousands also die from preventable mistakes outside hospitals, such as deaths from missed diagnoses or because of injuries from medications.

    Other reports have examined the impact of medical mistakes on segments of America’s patient population. A Department of Health and Human Services report in 2010 said 180,000 Medicare patients die each year from preventable adverse events in the hospital. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in 2011 said 1-in-25 hospital patients get an infection from being in the hospital; 700,000 of them get sick as a result and 75,000 die.

    It seems to me that the good Doctor and his peers are a far greater and destructive threat to public safety. Perhaps the good Doctor should just shut his yap and focus on paying his malpractice insurance.
     
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  2. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Education does not always = intelligence or intellectual honesty.
     
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  3. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    He's a family doctor and are at the bottom of the rung in terms of medical competency and this speaks highly of his ignorance of the subject mater. It is good that he retired: research skills and objectivity have been lost.
     
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  4. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    I read thru the comment section and it seems people are not buying the propaganda. No comments from UBC supporters either. Usually there are a few seminar posters stirring the pot.
     
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  5. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Frikken jerks passed it out of committee today along party lines. DEMOCRATS SUCK!!!
     
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  6. Gator Monroe

    Gator Monroe Southern Cascades Well-Known Member

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    Every piece of Firearms Restricting Legislation in California of last 19 years has been brought forth, rammed through committee, and passed by "Straight Party Line Vote" by Democrats, with only the 50 cal ban signed by Ahnold BUCKING THAT TREND .
     
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  7. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Making claims like that, they should be held accountable every time a gang shooting takes place.. I mean.. BGC were the ultimate solution right? How could it possibly not work? :eek:

    Sheeeesh.
    Whats worse is that slime ball "FFL" from cali that "testified" saying all FFLs should be excited and "cash in" with a BGC program..
    That is bubbleguming disgusting, and forced transfers? Christ.. When does it end? How will they regulate those costs? Its extortion with no cap in sight.
     
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  8. deshoots

    deshoots central oregon Member

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    That dude from Cali needs to be put out of business. Maybe calguns can help with that.
     
  9. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    WTF are out of staters EVEN doing putting their 2 cents in?
     
  10. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    My comment:

    "The poll Dr. Uphoff refers to was predominately taken in the Portland Metro area. Democrats were represented against Republicans at a rate of almost 2 to 1, and a majority were not gun owners. Gun control advocates like to tout that 83% (81 if they actually took time to read instead of merely repeating what crazy Aunt Ginny said at some rally). I sure hope Dr. Uphoff does more research than this when treating patients.

    According to the FBI about 50% more people are murdered each year by hammers and clubs than by rifles. If saving only one more life makes it all worthwhile, then why aren't we doing background checks at Home Depot?"
     
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  11. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Can I get a, HELL YEAH?!!!
     
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  12. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Notice the words in the title of the article? "Positive Step".

    Hear all the pro- SB-941 people yesterday testifying how "SB-941 is a good first step"...?

    Step definition:
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    One of a series of actions, processes, or measures taken to achieve a goal.

    They won't be satisfied with this. They have a goal, this was a Step towards it.
     
  13. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If all of this does not make you all understand how corrupt our political system currently is, and how futile it certainly appears that reasonable dissent is, then nothing ever will.
     
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  14. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Let's continue to hound the house democrats. Rep. Nearman sent me an email to continue the fight; thinks there is a chance this could be stopped in the House. Let's hound them! tkdguy
     
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  15. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Penny Okamoto (ceasefire Oregon) let's us know exactly what "The Next Step" is that they want in common sense gun laws. She Testified at the SB 941 committee BTW, my feed was freezing up at the time but she was quoting 87% or so multiple statistics from what I could hear.

     
  16. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    So, under SB 941 when do the civil rights of law abiding citizens get restored? If this is a good paradoxical issue to send off to the representatives, please do so. tkdguy
     
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  17. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Penny Okamoto is a fraud right from the get-go. She ain't even Japanese. o_O
     
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  18. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Damn I hate the title to this thread.
     
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  19. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Then click on that link and give 'em both barrels in the comment section! ;)
     
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  20. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    NancyWT at th OP link needs some more love from us :)