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Portland Police Training Exercise Lloyd Center Cinemas

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by accessbob, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. accessbob

    accessbob Molalla, OR 2A Supporter

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    Okay, this article tells about the training they did. But one statement stood out to me.
    Police take to Lloyd Cinemas for training - Koinlocal6.com

    DUH! So, why don't you associate that with getting rid of "gun free zones?" Sheesh!
     
  2. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Sheep used to be afraid of wolves, now they are even terrified of sheepdogs!
     
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  3. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    LOL @ police meeting the threat of mass shooters.

    All they do is collect corpses.
     
  4. cueball1214

    cueball1214 Beaverton Active Member

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    How about this for a training exercise?

    "Police respond to a shoots fired call at Lloyd Cinemas today. Upon arivle they observed a body on the ground ... The supsect, who was shot by a citizen carrying a handgun who had a Concealed Carry Permit. No other injuries were reported.
     
  5. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Just a little snip.



    There..that's better. :thumbup:
     
  6. Viper84

    Viper84 Bellingham, WA Member

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    AMEN.
     
  7. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Fear Mongering and useless waste of public resources.
     
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  8. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    More theater to make people feel safe.
     
  9. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    well at least people in pdx are getting a show for the tax money they pay
     
  10. cueball1214

    cueball1214 Beaverton Active Member

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    Looks good to me.
     
  11. Navman

    Navman Canby Oregon Active Member

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    The first responders are the ones that are already there...

    The second responders document the crime scene...
     
  12. Black Dog

    Black Dog Eagle Creek Or Active Member

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    I AGREE with this 100%.
     
  13. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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  14. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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  15. WhyteCheddar

    WhyteCheddar East of Moscow by the Willamette Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how much chalk they used practicing drawing outlines of people who had to wait for them?
    Probably also used reams of report forms.
     
  16. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    "The man who helped New York City police wrestle to the ground a knife-wielding man accused of stabbing three people to death in February, announced he will sue the city and police, claiming that officers initially left him to fend for himself with the suspect.

    New evidence shows two police officers who were aboard the subway car where the attack occurred locked themselves into the safe confines of the conductor’s cabin because they thought the suspect, Maxsim Gelman, was reaching for a gun as he approached Joseph Lozito, Edmond Chakmakian, Lozito’s attorney, said.

    Shortly after the Feb. 12 attack, a grand jury member told Lozito that jurors were appalled when they heard a police officer's version of the story, Chakmakian said.

    “The juror said cops locked themselves inside because they thought Gelman was going to pull out a gun,” Chakmakian said. “What were the police officers waiting for, an engraved invitation?”

    Read more: NYC Subway Hero Says Police Initially Left Him to Fend for Himself Against Killer | Fox News
     
  17. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    "Lozito said he grappled with Gelman for minutes before police acted.

    The NYPD’s recollection of the event is different from Lozito’s"
     
  18. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    How many active shooter situations have police resolved (as in taking out the threat before he's done shooting innocents)?

    Well this "training excercise" sounds like an anticipated "shooter" with an unrestricted supply of law enforcement folks standing ready.
    Bravo. I hope the cops were equipped with chalk since thats all they have time for unless there is actually an active shooter while they are there...and they are carrying live ammo...
     
  19. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    City says cops had no duty to protect subway hero Joseph Lozito who subdued killer Maksim Gelman and was stabbed seven times in process - NYPOST.com


    "City says cops had no duty to protect subway hero who subdued killer

    He says he put his life on the line to stop a killer — and claims cops sat back and watched.

    But city lawyers are arguing that the police had no legal duty to protect Joseph Lozito, the Long Island dad stabbed seven times trying to subdue madman Maksim Gelman — a courtroom maneuver the subway hero calls “disgraceful.”

    A judge is currently deciding whether Lozito, who sued the city last year for failing to prevent the attack, will get his day in court. "


    "The city routinely settles such litigation but is playing hardball with Lozito, insisting his demand for unspecified money damages be tossed because the police had no “special duty” to protect him or any individual on the train that day.

    “Under well-established law, the police are not liable for such incidents,” said city lawyer David Santoro. “That doesn't detract from the Police Department's public safety mission -- or the fact that New York is the safest big city in America."

    Experts say it’s a long-standing legal precedent requiring police to put the public safety of all ahead of any one individual’s rights."
     
  20. jimwsea

    jimwsea Vancouver, Washington state Active Member

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