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Poll - .223 FMJ-BT vs HPBT

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by AMProducts, Dec 14, 2014.

  1. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    I know that my preference is to use HPBT for almost everything, but I often load lots of FMJ-BT mostly due to cost. I'm curious what other people's preferences are.
     
  2. Reno911

    Reno911 Hillsboro Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I usually load the 62g fmjbt surplus projectiles when I can get them in bulk for cheap.
     
  3. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    I personally like the HPBT.

    I would like to know if the 60gn V-Max HP flat bottoms are reliable? I found some load data using IMR3031 with the 55gn HPBT.
     
  4. gunfreak

    gunfreak Boise Well-Known Member

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    On sale the 55 gr BT FMJ are $12.50 at Bi-Mart, my son's Mini-14 is a suppressive fire/zombie killer so those work for me.
     
  5. Osmosis

    Osmosis Oregon City Member

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    69 sierra's are the winners ;)
     
  6. Reno911

    Reno911 Hillsboro Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    +1 for 69g match kings.

    If your loading for accuracy this is the bullet.
     
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  7. Papercidal

    Papercidal Vancouver ,Wa Active Member

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    69gr smk
     
  8. 2ndtimer

    2ndtimer SE Washington state Active Member

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    I load a lot of the Hornady 55 gr Soft Point (bulk with cannelure). Just ordered 1000 of them for $89.90 shipped. They work decently for plinking, varmints and (IMO) personal defense. But if the only option is HP vs FMJ, I would go Hollowpoint very time, as they are typically more accurate and should do a better job of retaining their core when they run into something.
     
  9. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    I'm designing some tooling, I'm debating making FMJ-BT, or HPBT, it's really the same cost in materials, and theoretically it's the same price in labor. With that in mind, if I could sell them for the same price as FMJ I want to know if there's a market for them.
     
  10. Osmosis

    Osmosis Oregon City Member

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    Consistent, superbly accurate projectiles comparable to the sierra matchkings will always have a market.
     
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  11. warnerwh

    warnerwh Portland, OR Member

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    I would buy them if they are consistent quality. I need them capable of less than 1" groups.
     
  12. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Yes I would buy HP's over FMJ because I like to shoot what I will use in a defensive situation.
     
  13. SeattleDude

    SeattleDude Everett New Member

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    69 SMK for accuracy and Hornady 55gr FMJ for plinking
     
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  14. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    55gr FMJ or 62gr, whatever is cheeper for plinking. Hand loaded 55gr Nosler ballistic tip for my target/game gun.
     
  15. P7id10T

    P7id10T Cedar Hills Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    CJ: I have found in all my loads that the flat base just reduces the accuracy range. Plinking ammo works for me.
     
  16. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    I appreciate your knowledge, I kind of figured but is great to have the experienced advice.;)
     
  17. Ron Eagle Elk

    Ron Eagle Elk Outside Ft Lewis East Gate Active Member

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    Berger VLD 70 grain BTHP is my go to for .223.
     
  18. FOWELKILLER

    FOWELKILLER buckley ,wa Member

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    55gr hornady fmj for plinking,hornady 55gr sp for the yotyky,but ill try anything at a cheap price.tell ya what you sponser my hunting career and ill tell ya how they work.:D
     
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  19. kfbigdog

    kfbigdog Klamath Falls New Member

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    Hard to beat 50 gr. Hornaday ballistic tip (zombie) bullets I personally like pushing them with 21 grains of IMR 4198 powder. Shoots about 3050 fps. I shoot 3/8 MOA at 100 yards. (cover 3 shots with a dime). Also I get 333 rounds per pound of powder, perhaps the most efficient when it comes to speed/accuracy/price.
    Hope this helps.

    :)
     
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  20. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    This isn't going to help, but I really don't care. If they feed from a magazine, shoot well and accurate like a target bullet should, then it really doesn't matter. Form follow function, make me a good quality well priced bullet and I'll buy it.