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Police Bias Against Armed Self-Defense

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by 206thsense, Feb 5, 2016.

  1. 206thsense

    206thsense Seattle, WA, USA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Young college student is assaulted by a big drunken frat boy who repeatedly slams him into parked cars. Student draws a fixed blade knife and warns frat boy to back off; frat boy doesn't listen and gets stabbed.

    Police arrest the student who defended himself and accuse him of first degree assault with a deadly weapon. Student's family hires legal representation to fight the case, and WINS the jury trial - justified self defense, thanks in part to the testimony of several unbiased witnesses who saw the fight.

    Drunken frat boy is now threatening a civil lawsuit and still claims it wasn't his fault despite witness testimony.

    Moral of the story: doesn't always assume the cops will be on your side if you have to use a weapon to defend your life. Hire a good lawyer, and pray to God that you can track down witnesses who will tell the truth about how you protected yourself.
     
  2. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    And, SHUT UP until you have legal representation!:cool:
     
  3. BDA.45

    BDA.45 oregon Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    ^^^Can't be stressed enough......
     
  4. IheartSig

    IheartSig Beaverton Diamond Supporter Diamond Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    I can't stress this enough, there is no reason to talk to a single person besides your lawyer in a situation like that. Let your Lawyer handle it.
     
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  5. 41Slinger

    41Slinger Harrisburg Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I know of this personally and the only thing that saved this gentleman was the FACT that he didn't talk, confirmed by his lawyer, cost him about $25,000.00 but kept him from going to prison. Neighbor he'd had problems with before came onto his property, they had a confrontation and he beat the crap out of the guy, was charged with a felony assault and won in court. Keep your mouth shut and also, you be the one to call 911, don't wait for someone else to do it.
     
  6. kilimanjaro

    kilimanjaro Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    The college student got his legal fees awarded by the jury, so the state will pay them. If you are ever involved in a SD event in Washington state, be sure to have your lawyer demand payment when you are exonerated. It's not an automatic thing, you have to ask, or the jury may award it, but if you don't ask, you may not get it at all.
     
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  7. slimer13

    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    I thought the moral of the story was don't live in liberal cesspools. That's what I got out of it:s0092:
     
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  8. Liberty Machinist

    Liberty Machinist Yakima, WA Member

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    This sounds like a story from England not the U.S.A.......
     
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  9. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Or don't be a college student mixing it up with drunken frat boys.
    Not blaming the "victim", but it kind of sounds like it may have been an avoidable situation since it didn't appear the big drunken frat boy broke into the "victim's" dorm room while he was doing his homework.
     
  10. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    My brother is a LEO and that's the first thing he told me.
    If you ever get in trouble or have the cops talk to you don't say a word.
    Other than, I want a lawyer.
    NOT A WORD!

    He said probably 70% of people that are charged/convicted incriminated themselves because they said the wrong thing or slipped up talking, got caught lying, etc.

    And always be the person to call 911, give the operator as little info as possible.
    Don't say I shot someone, say someones been shot, they need medical attention. Please help.
    Always get medical attention started. Even if the person's head is a canoe. Please help them!
     
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  11. 41Slinger

    41Slinger Harrisburg Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    A canoe, now that is funny, really funny, oh, sorry not funny, not really funny, giggle, he he, giggle giggle,, HA HA HA HA HA HA, LOL
     
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  12. Larrytpdx

    Larrytpdx Portland, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I keep ARNOLD LAW FIRM's number with me at all times. (855) 976-8493. They are Gun Rights Attorneys for CC, Open Carry, NFA, Brandishing, Self Defense, Castle Doctrine, Deadly Force etc.
    They have offices in Portland and Eugene.

    http://arnoldlawfirm.com/oregon-gun-rights-attorneys/

    REMEMBER:
    1. CALL 911
    2. RENDER AID AND ASSISTANCE
    3. STFU!
    4. TRAIN FOR THAT DAY!
     
  13. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Better call Saul.
     
  14. coop44

    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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    If no one was there to witness it I would think about just walking away. Had a very well k own attorney tell me "you can kill somebody in a room with 20 witnesses, I can get you off, IF you keep your mouth shut" The more witnesses the better, everyone will have a different version.
     
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  15. waglockfan

    waglockfan Puget Sound Well-Known Member

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    That kid should be re admitted to UW.
     
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    P7id10T Cedar Hills Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If you are ever unfortunate enough to be in something like this, there are only two groups of people allowed to visit you outside of visitation hours: clergy or legal representation. Call one of them first.
    In the case of a friend, arrested for drunken assault, the cops were treating him very badly - they kept his cell at 60°F and only allowed him to wear pants and a tee shirt. He was shivering when he called his pastor, who set things right when he got there.
    It was his opinion that the point of the cold was to get him to talk.
     
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  17. Larrytpdx

    Larrytpdx Portland, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I bet he didn't get any marshmallows with his hot cocoa and brownies either!
     
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  18. P7id10T

    P7id10T Cedar Hills Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    No soup either! The ba$tards!
     
  19. Cryobot

    Cryobot Portland Area Member

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    Only say these three things:
    I was afraid for my life
    Arrest him (even if they are not moving)
    I want to speak with my lawyer
     
  20. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Actually there's a 4th thing to say:

    4. I don't answer questions officer/deputy.
     
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