Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

Pocket Gun Thoughts

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by Whaler, Nov 11, 2013.

  1. Whaler

    Whaler Sequim, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    163
    Likes Received:
    261
    I am thinking about either a Sig P-238 or P-938 and leaning more to the P-238. I have arthritis in my hands so am a bit recoil sensitive and from what I read the slide is easier to rack on the P-238. I am well aware of the limitations of a 380 but I carry a Bersa 380 now and am comfortable with the caliber. There are lots of other brand options but I have always wanted to own a Sig and maybe it is time.
     
  2. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,663
    Likes Received:
    1,826
    I need big pockets to carry my Bersa Thunder 380CC in a nylon Blackhawk holster. I'd like to get something smaller for the pocket like a Taurus TCP (not sure it trust it) or the Beretta Pico if it ever comes out.
     
  3. BlindedByScience

    BlindedByScience Vancouver WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    414
    Likes Received:
    432
    I went against conventional thinking these days and bought a Smith and Wesson Model 642 snubnose airweight for pocket carry:

    The Smith & Wesson Model 642 Centennial Airweight Revolver

    I was never comfortable with the .380 and this is rated for .38+P, which is what I carry. I carry mid / full size Glocks when I'm traveling, but for a run to the store / gas station, I drop this little Smith into an Uncle Mike's pocket liner and off I go. I'm really happy with the setup. Mine went back to Cylinder and Slide for a full tune up, reliability package, sight work, etc. but stock they are fine little guns. No regrets on my pocket carry choice.

    As they say, one man's opinion.....
     
    2gr8dgs, evltwn and (deleted member) like this.
  4. SynapticSilence

    SynapticSilence Battle Ground, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    732
    Likes Received:
    392
    Look at the Magnum Research Micro Desert Eagle. Smaller than any other .380 but amazingly engineered and reliable. Slide is quite simple to rack and the DAO trigger is smooth with a crisp break. At 14oz with steel slide and alloy frame, it also manages recoil excellently. I love mine, so much I gave my first one to my son and bought myself another. http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-Micro-Desert-Eagle-Nickel.asp
     
    brentb636 and (deleted member) like this.
  5. 1200bruce

    1200bruce Port Angeles WA Active Member

    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    38
    Ruger 357 LCR here.
     
  6. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,570
    Likes Received:
    383
    Plus 1.

    ...as a pocket gun, you understand.

    Be well,
    Will
     
  7. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    646
    Likes Received:
    584
    I like my LC9 for deep conceal, and as a back up gun.
     
  8. SavageGerbil

    SavageGerbil Salem, OR Active Member

    Messages:
    786
    Likes Received:
    143
    With arthritic hands you'd be hard pressed to do better than the p238, I found it to be about at the limit for comfortable pocket carry (in every type of pants, anyways, some pockets are obviously larger than others)
    Recoil is low enough to be a comfortable for longer practice sessions. The poly-pocket 9mms are a handful no matter how good of shape the ol' paws are in.
     
  9. cookie

    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,077
    Likes Received:
    533
    J frame a 649 would be the ticket. Shoot standard 38 special loads and feel well armed.
     
    mjbskwim and (deleted member) like this.
  10. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,447
    Likes Received:
    7,709
    Yeah I was gunna buy a second hand one and my friend asked me if I wanted to shoot his first. Just sayin

    Dick,I would lean towards the 9mm if you can work the slide OK.I'm just not a 380 fan though. But I just don't really like small guns either. ( I just traded my sweet S&W 36 for a Blackhawk 6")
    My friend's wife carries the P238 and love it.Shoots it very well also.

    Good luck and I'm sure we'll see pics of it soon
     
  11. stmcelroy

    stmcelroy Madras, OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,246
    Likes Received:
    252
    Cock the hammer and there is virtually no pressure required to load a P238, great gun too.
     
  12. SomeDude

    SomeDude Portland, OR Reclaimer

    Messages:
    370
    Likes Received:
    83
    I'd say save a lot of trouble and worry and go to a store that has both and see how it is to rack the slide. I've recently seen both in stock at NW Armory and Keith's.
     
  13. brentb636

    brentb636 Holland, mi Active Member

    Messages:
    124
    Likes Received:
    59
    I've not tried the p238 , but I have arthritic hands and liked the Micro Desert Eagle over the Keltec P3at and Bodyguard 380. For me, the thicker grip of the micro Desert Eagle, and it's additional weight and decent trigger make it a viable tiny pistol with a lot of bang. I've used Buffalo Bore +p thru it and could still shoot it without pain. :)
     
  14. cowboygraphics

    cowboygraphics Beaverton, OR Active Member

    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    53
    Sig P238. Reliable, considered accurate & pleasant to fire.
    Can augment grip with extended mags with pinkie holders.

    Rack it when convenient & hands warmed up then carry in "condition*" you want, perhaps Condition 1 or 2.
    Condition 1: round in chamber, hammer cocked, safety On
    Condition 2: round in chamber, hammer uncocked

    *Condition 0: round in chamber, hammer cocked, safety Off
    Condition 1: round in chamber, hammer cocked, safety On
    Condition 2: round in chamber, hammer uncocked
    (note: all of the above include a loaded magazine in the weapon)
    Condition 3: empty chamber, hammer uncocked, loaded magazine in weapon
    Condition 4: empty chamber, no magazine in weapon
     
  15. 2Wheels4Ever

    2Wheels4Ever Central Oregon Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

    Messages:
    1,108
    Likes Received:
    513
    I love my p238. I have about 300 rounds through it and it has eaten everything void of a single problem. It fits in all of my front pockets with a blackhawk pocket holster, and with buffalo bore ammo it can come close to standard 38 special +p ratings. I have nothing but positive things to say about it and I would recommend the P238 to anyone who is looking for a pocket gun.

    I have shot and carried the ruger 380 but the sig shot circles around the lcp. A pocket gun has its advantages and disadvantages, but I definitely like having the option available. Sometimes not having to worry about flashing your gun every time you reach up can be beneficial.
     
  16. brentb636

    brentb636 Holland, mi Active Member

    Messages:
    124
    Likes Received:
    59
    When I was exploring the tiny guns, this micro Desert Eagle was the best one that I carried. I'm 66 , with a little hand arthritis, and shot it effectively. I've switched to PPK sized ( FEG -PA63, SMC-380, Nano ) pistols packed IWB, but for a pocket gun the mDE is my choice.
     
  17. techieguy

    techieguy Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,022
    Likes Received:
    167
    The P238 is a great little gun, with pretty good night sight. I picked up on for those times I need to pocket carry and the P238 mimics my 1911 close enough. The current crop of 380 defensive ammo is much better than 10 years ago putting in on par with 38spl (look at this study of real world shootings: An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power | Buckeye Firearms Association)
     
  18. Whaler

    Whaler Sequim, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    163
    Likes Received:
    261
    Thanks, that was very interesting reading.
     
  19. redhippie

    redhippie People's republic of PDX Active Member

    Messages:
    152
    Likes Received:
    35
    If your used to the Bersa and want a sig, have you considered a p230 or 232. Basically the shape and size as the bersa/walther ppk so it might even support the same holsters and accessories you already have. What you get is the sig quality, decocker, night sights, etc.

    I find the p238 so be a more complicated battery of arms. All those conditions. For a carry gun, i want to be able to pull it and pull the trigger. The safety sweep is definitely a new step to train for.
     
  20. Whaler

    Whaler Sequim, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    163
    Likes Received:
    261

    The P232 is a wonderful pistol but would not have any carry advantage over my Bersa and like my Bersa is not a pocket pistol so it would be a waste of money. I shot 1911s for years so the safety sweep on a P238 is a no brainer.