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Please help me understand some prices of guns on this site..

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by glockguy, Feb 1, 2011.

  1. glockguy

    glockguy Albany Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Ok so through out my scanning of the classifieds i have seen some standard used guns with no extras selling for 50 or more over a dealers new price... would someone please explain to me why people do this? this seems ridicules to me..
     
  2. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    They want what they paid for the gun or they might want more. Expain to me why when Bi Mart has Mini Mags on sale for $4.99 per 100 do you see guys at the gun shows asking $10.00 for the same package.
     
  3. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    Depends on where they shop verses where you shop. I can go to Big 5 and buy a 10/22 for over $200 or I can go to Bimart and get it for under $200. Depends on how savy they were in buying or how badly they were taken advantage of. Just because their asking it doesnt mean that they'll end up selling it for that, especially if the person interested is knowledgable on pricing.
     
  4. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    People can put whatever price they want on their personal property. If its too high, it won't sell. They'll figure it out soon enough.

    Still...some folks may not mind paying a premium if they can get a firearm with no attached paperwork hassles.

    Keith
     
  5. glockguy

    glockguy Albany Oregon Well-Known Member

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    thats the only thing i could think of
     
  6. raftman

    raftman Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    A lot of people are under the impression that guns don't really lose value. That may also account for it.

    What annoys me more are the ads that read "$500 cash or $600 in trade." Their gun is suddenly worth more if it's being traded for? Just how dull do they think people are? Who exactly is gonna agree to something that may as well say "I want you to give me your more valuable gun for my mess valuable gun!"?
     
  7. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    In Arizona most people perceive an "added value" in buying a used gun without filling out the 4473 paperwork and they charge a bit more for this. At every gun show I see people with prices $100 or more on their used guns over what my New guns cost. That is the wonder of "Private Sale"
     
  8. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    The beauty of a free market economy. There really is no gouging. There are simply people who put a higher value on their guns than others do. Look at certain people in the classified sections here (who shall remain nameless). They put the same crap up to the top for months on end. They refuse pictures for a while, then bump their eleven separate ads to the top once a week and wonder why after months on end and no real price drops, they haven't sold.

    So, the way I look at it, when someone really overprices something (at least in my opinion), I look at it like its not even for sale. Its just taking up bandwidth...
     
  9. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    DING DING DING!!!

    We have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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    The "Feedback Score" is low by 4, not everyone posts it I guess.

    Deen
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  10. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe the significant other said "sell it or else" and they don't really want to sell it. "But I DID try to sell it, nobody would buy it!!!!
     
  11. Scott

    Scott Battle Ground Well-Known Member

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    Thats right. If you go to any gun shop they will always give more in trade vs. selling out right. I see that everywhere. Because if the dealer just buys he does not make as much but if you trade and buy another gun he wins both ways. Pefect sense to me
     
  12. This. It always made sense to me. The phrase "Cash talks" comes to mind. I can get ANYTHING I want with cash, as opposed to taking a trade which may still interest me, but not necessarily be exactly what I was looking for.
     
  13. Ace

    Ace Newberg New Member

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    Not everyone does a lot of research and you never know till you try.

    Start high and you can always come down in price.
    Whereas you always wonder if you could have gotten more out of something when it sells in 5 min for the asking price.

    I figure I can ask more for my stuff when trading too so it makes it an even field.

    I've also seen guys brag to their significant other that they will never lose a dime on a certain purchase, then they have to back it up when selling.
     
  14. madcratebuilder

    madcratebuilder Ardenwald, OR Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! And then people bubblegum about paper work at gun shows. It's because to many ineligible people are buying guns. Even if you do a diligent job, ask for ID and do a bill of sale on a FTF you could still be selling to a ineligible person.
     
  15. Tactical SS

    Tactical SS Washington Member

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    It's a smart idea to list it higher than what you actually want to sell it for. You have to be careful not to list it to high and "scare" most people away though. If you had it listed for $400 and it retails for $450 new, it would be reasonable for someone to counter your asking price at at lower price, then you can counter offer. It's a strategy that works, but you have to be careful to not ask to much from the start and chase off potential buyers.
     
  16. Spitpatch

    Spitpatch Forest Grove, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I've always figured anything not new is priced with the understanding there is room to negotiate. New is priced with the understanding that perhaps (or not) a better price can be found elsewhere. There are a number of dealers at the Portland show who are very crusty and offended when I've made them a very reasonable offer for a gun. Each time I see that they've carried that same gun to yet another show, and have not sold it, it is sort of a personal triumph for me.

    I'm at the point now (with my pornographic memory) that I know in advance the inventory of certain tables just based on the face behind the table. Some of those guns have more miles between gun shows on 'em than my Toyota Tercel.
     
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    Nosrac Lakewood, WA Member

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    :bluelaugh:
     
  18. seattlewingsfan

    seattlewingsfan Lakewood, Washington, United States Member

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    Thats when you say... You have had this gun for 6 months... I offered you "X" amount of money. It has cost you 20 bucks in gas to haul it around... I'll give you 20 less than before so you won't have to carry it around and spend another 20 bucks...

    Worked for me before.
     
  19. Spitpatch

    Spitpatch Forest Grove, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Seafan, that'd be all fine and dandy, if the original response to my reasonable offer was not, " Price is on the gun!", or "I've got that much in it!". (Both meaningless statements that have no bearing on the setting or the truth).

    I've been on the other side of the table off and on my whole life. Literally cut my teeth at gunshows. If I am behind the table, and a man is interested in the gun, and takes the effort to put forth a reasonable offer, I don't decline right away (even if I will not let it go for that amount). I consider it an invitiation for conversation. An opportunity to share information about what we each know about the gun. Then I might politely decline the offfer, advise my ballpark, and invite him to return. Your strategy is well-considered, and has worked for me as it has for you: but only with a congenial dealer.

    Some of these guys remind me of the old "Yellow Pages" commercial on TV: "Here we are at Arnold's Rug to find out why he doesn't advertise in the Yellow Pages".
    Arnold says he only has one rug, and if he sold it, "it wouldn't be Arnold's Rug anymore, now would it?" People who want to sell, advertise in the Yellow Pages. People who don't, don't.
     
  20. ronin223

    ronin223 Portland Active Member

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    I don't think it is this board alone. You see it on craigslist as well for Oregon

    Oregonians are under some delusion that once they buy it and use it, it is somehow worth more than new from a dealer. My non oregon friends laugh about this all the time.