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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by xstayfrostyx, Oct 15, 2009.

  1. xstayfrostyx

    xstayfrostyx PDX Member

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    C'mon... gimme a flippin' break. This is such a weak concept, and I would imagine anyone smarter than a 5th grader could punch holes in this argument all day long... but it begs the question: Why is the AP pushing this weak-sauce out there again, so soon?! It's almost like they have an agenda or something... (laying the sarcasm on pretty thick there).

    Distress call put out from Mexico to ban assault weapons
    Associated Press
    Oct. 14, 2009, 6:37AM

    MEXICO CITY — The United States should reinstate a Clinton-era ban on assault weapons to prevent such guns from reaching Mexican drug cartels, former officials from both countries said in a report released Tuesday.

    The group, which includes two former U.S. ambassadors to Mexico, also said the U.S. should do more to stop the smuggling of firearms and ammunition into Mexico by stepping up investigations of gun dealers and more strictly regulating gun shows.

    The Binational Task Force on the United States-Mexico Border listed the assault weapons ban as a step the U.S. should take immediately to improve security in both countries. The 10-year ban expired in 2004.

    “Improving our efforts ... will weaken the drug cartels and disrupt their illegal activities, and make it easier ultimately to dismantle and destroy them,” said Robert Bonner, co-chairman of the group and former head of both the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration and Customs and Border Protection agency.

    U.S. and Mexican officials say drug cartels frequently use assault rifles, which are banned in Mexico but easily purchased in the United States.

    Mexican President Felipe Calderon launched a nationwide crackdown on drug cartels when he took office in December 2006. The offensive has been met with unprecedented violence, leaving more than 13,800 people dead.

    During his run for office, President Barack Obama promised to push to reinstate the ban. He has since said he would rather enforce existing laws that make it illegal to send assault weapons across the border.

    Other recommendations related to border security included restructuring Mexico's law enforcement operations to create a counterpart to the U.S. Border Patrol, increasing U.S. assistance to Mexico to build up law enforcement and reducing demand for drugs in the United States through more treatment programs.
     
  2. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    This is all about the Mexican govt's inability or unwillingness to control their own crime problem. If it weren't for the graft and corruption south of the border, they would probably have a standard of living that rivals the U.S. As it is, there's almost no middle class in Mexico.

    I love how they take pictures of full auto AK's and RPG's and imply they are coming across the border from the U.S. There's an idea! Maybe I'll pick up an RPG at the gun show this weekend! :laugh:
     
  3. chris61182

    chris61182 A little west of Portland Active Member

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    I really wish they'd fact check their articles. Assault rifles have been effectively banned, or at the very least not easily purchased, in the United States for quite a while.
     
  4. New Oregonian

    New Oregonian Lane County Member

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    How about we start cracking down on guns right after they start cracking down on drugs...:D
     
  5. Karma

    Karma the woods in Oregon Active Member

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    Easy enough to solve. We build a big fence as was promised in 05 and protect our borders! It would keep any weapons from being transported into Mexico from the US, and it would keep them from importing drugs and illegals into the US. Seems like a win win situation to me! Then all imports and exports would be controlled by both countries as they should be. I will bet that isn't a solution that Mexico wants though.
     
  6. WhyteCheddar

    WhyteCheddar East of Moscow by the Willamette Well-Known Member

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    If you build it they 'WON'T' come.
    :thumbup:
     
  7. huntpotter

    huntpotter SW WA Negotiator Bronze Supporter

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    Big Fence.:thumbup:
    Get rid of the corrupt politicians.:thumbup:
    Crack down on the drug dealers. :thumbup:
    Quit blaming law abiding US citizens for Mexico's problems.
    We've said it all before. They just don't get it.
     
  8. jimboshooter

    jimboshooter West Portland, Oregon Active Member

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    Does anyone know what assault rifles the bad guys use down there. All the pictures I see of bad guys always show AK's. I would think the Mexican bad guys would get those from places other than the US.
     
  9. Doubletap

    Doubletap Newberg Well-Known Member

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    Mexico's government is even more corrupt than the one we just installed.. This whole "war" is over them wanting to control the drug trade..instead of the cartels..

    CLOSE OUR BORDERS...NOW!!!!!
     
  10. Artilleryman

    Artilleryman Originally from the central midwest but have reloc Active Member

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    fence? terrible idea........minefield would be much better.:thumbup:
     
  11. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    +1 Claymores anyone?
     
  12. ORBrit

    ORBrit Eugene Member

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    They could just declare the border the worlds largest free shooting range.

    I think after the first couple weeks the targets would get real scarce.
     
  13. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they are trying to help stimulate gun sales? Prices are dropping like a rock!
     
  14. Ding

    Ding Lighter Side of Oz Active Member

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    all the weapons they use are from the corrupt and deserting army personel,that's the M-16s you are seeing and hearing about,which do come from the U.S.,but they come from the government,not us.The AK's you see are coming from colombia,nicaragua,honduras,guatamala and el salvador via china and cuba.Gimmie a break.
     
  15. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    Now that is something worthy of drinking to!
     
  16. NK777

    NK777 West of Portland Member

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    I got a cheap easy solution to the whole mess that doesn't include enfringement on our rights in the USA.

    Close the F'n border already!
     
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    Badshot Portland New Member

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    dario541 medford, or 97504 Member

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    Chris61182 suggests that the news media (the Government's anti-gun mouthpiece) should do a "fact check" before they print anything. The thing is, the "lap-dog" media NEVER let facts get in the way of the story they want to tell.
     
  19. tionico

    tionico Thurston County Well-Known Member

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    funny, Canada never complains about "illegal weapons" flowing north in large numbers...... so what is Mexico on about? Seems our neighbours to the north have effectively dealt with the problem on their end. Why not ours to the south?

    Hmmmm.. seems the poor Mexican government needs to have a whinge elsewhere. But they won't. Mr O has pledged to give them what they want.... wish he'd give them what they NEED. Hmmm.. no there's a concept.
     
  20. dario541

    dario541 medford, or 97504 Member

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    Mexico is having a "Civil War". The Mexican government is corrupt and unable to control the drug dealers and thus they pass the buck by blaming American gun owners. And, of course America's anti-gun crowd is playing the same card.