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Planet X, ELENIN.... SEPT 26, 2011

Discussion in 'Education & Training' started by jer fly, Aug 5, 2011.

  1. jer fly

    jer fly cottage grove Member

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    I'm wondering if anyone has heard about the coming comet or brown dwarf star, ELENIN. I just watch a NASA orbit projection that has me a little worried. I have heard nothing of this until yesterday. Seems to be a debate whether this is a comet or a brown dwarf star. If it is a brown dwarf we are all in a lot of trouble. I don't see any mention on the puppet head news stations, not that there would be if there is anything to really worry about. Just wondering if anyone else has heard.:paranoid:
     
  2. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    Its a comet that's passing by at about 21 million miles from earth... Anything else you've heard is just tin foil talking.
     
  3. Demonian

    Demonian Bend, OR. Member

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    There certainly seems to be no lack of conspiracy theories about this. I have to admit they do appeal to my paranoid side a bit. However, after all of the end of the world theories I have lived through, I can't buy into this one any more than I did the others.
     
  4. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

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    It's going to pass by at about .23AU from earth (1.00AU is the distance of the earth to the sun).

    Yes, roughly 21 million miles. That makes it seem like a long way off, however there has been an uptick in earthquakes, volcanoes, etc, recently, and it coincides when this, whatever it is, lines up with planets in our solar system. Hold it... sorry...gotta take off my silver hat.

    Whatever is coming, economic, political or planetary...Be Prepared.

    Be well all,
    Will
     
  5. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    Yeah and its estimated to be at largest 10km wide, do the math.

    Also there has been no statistical rise in earthquakes (at least large magnitude) or volcanoes... I don't know why people keep "claiming" this, but there is absolutely no scientific evidence to support it.
     
  6. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

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    I'm no expert and I don't accept all that is on the internet...especially this site:laugh:
    But there seems to be ample stats from USGS confirming the uptick in earthquake activity over the last 10, 20 30 years.

    I've linked one the many examples below.
    Major Earthquakes Increase 47 % in 3 Decades « Fire Earth

    Again, I don't know, you tell me...

    Be well all,
    Will
     
  7. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    It depends on how you analyze the statistics. There will always "appear" to be an increase of smaller earthquakes over time due an increase network of seismographs, but thats only because we are able to locate more and more remote and deep quakes.

    Even according to your link posted, there is no large increase in earthquakes magnitude 7+, but by adding 6-7, it shows an increase, and if you added 5-6. you would probably see even more of an increase.

    Here is some info from the USGS;
    Are Earthquakes Really on the Increase?

    If you put numbers in anyone's hands who has an agenda, they will find a way to make the "statistics" favorable for them.
     
  8. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    Just when I thought I was all set up for bugging out if the need arises.... NOW I have to start saving for a space shuttle at the next government auction so I can get off this rock and find another one to move all my preps to................I cant catch a break.
     
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  9. Wood Worker

    Wood Worker Linn County Oregon Active Member

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    I have not heard, can it be seen with the naked eye yet?
    I will have to look for it while looking for all the meteors that are supposed to become meteorites this week and next.
     
  10. elsie

    elsie Way over there on the left Well-Known Member

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    If it's a chunk of brown dwarf star, it's going to perturb a lot of orbits on the way in (some claims on the interwebs are in the neighborhood of 2-4 Jupiter masses, and look at the effect that has on objects in the system). If not a brown dwarf, then it's a pretty big miss. If you want to get your hair standing on end, look at NEO Earth Close Approaches and see some of the close approaches: like Jul 28th of this year, a miss of .4 lunar diameters (143000 kilometers or half the distance to the moon). Others have been closer in the recent past.


    elsie
     
  11. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

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  12. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    I dont recall the source, but there are many sources on the net quoting 3-5km, and up to 10km. This is done by using calculations relating coma size to the nucleus and its distance to the sun.


    And according to predictions, it will be too dim to see with the naked eye even as it passes by at its closest point.
     
  13. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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  14. jer fly

    jer fly cottage grove Member

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bv1rQxgMbA This is the link to the video I watched. sorry you might have to cut copy the link into your browser, I'm not to computer savvy. BTW it's very hard to hear I had to put the speaker up to my ear...
     
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