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pistol reloading question

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Dizle, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. Dizle

    Dizle albany, oregon Member

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    hey all, ive been loading with titegroup for my 9mm and 40sw.
    i bought a jug of bullseye and am wondering what is a good starting point and a good load to use (alliants website only gives the max powder charge)

    for 9mm i am using 115gn lead bullets
    and 147 lead bullets
    for 40sw i am using 180gn lead bullets

    i know i should buy a reloading book, but im cheap lol
  2. aquariumjunky

    aquariumjunky Albany, Oregon Active Member

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    If you have max load reduce it by 25% and work back up. And remember that modern reloading data is very lawyered up compared to what you will find in a old reloading book. In most cases you are not going to blow anything up by loading at max load but then again it is not my hand shooting your reloads if you know what I mean.

    Let me know if I can help,
  3. HappyRoman

    HappyRoman Sherwood Forest Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Reloading The 9 MM Luger

    HERE YOU GO>>>>>>>>>

    (WC= WadCutter, SWC= Semi-WadCutter,
    HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose, FMC= Full Metal Case, FMJ= Full Metal Jacket
    JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet)

    Loads for 9 MM Luger:
    (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start.)
    (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.)
    Bullet size is .355" (jacketed) in diameter. Cast bullets for 9mm (like Lead RN) are often .356" diameter.
    Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. It is just a guide and the reason you should start 10% under these charges and work up.
    THESE ARE MAXIMUM LOADS! - NOTE, powder companies have reduced some of these hot and maximum loads after these figures were posted. You might check current loads from powder company before loading maximum loads.

    90 grain JHP (Jacketed Hollow Point)
    Bullseye 5.0 gr. 1,250 FPS
    Unique 6.1 gr. 1,341
    HP38 5.8 gr. 1,349
    HS-6 8.1 gr. 1,380
    No. 2 4.8 gr. 1,331
    No. 5 6.8 gr. 1,343
    231 5.1 gr. 1,305
    100 grain JHP or FMC (Jacketed Hollow Point)
    Bullseye 4.9 gr. 1,182 FPS
    Unique 6.0 gr. 1,248
    HP38 5.5 gr. 1,282
    HS-6 7.5 gr. 1,313
    No. 2 5.2 gr. 1,190
    No. 5 6.8 gr. 1,200
    No. 7 9.0 gr. 1,230
    231 5.1 gr. 1,235
    WAP 6.0 gr. 1,155
    VV N350 6.0 gr. 1,180
    115 grain FMC
    Bullseye 4.3 gr. 1,180 FPS
    Unique 6.1 gr. 1,185
    Universal 5.0 gr. 1,149
    Clays 3.9 gr. 1,095
    HP38 5.1 gr. 1,167
    No. 2 4.4 gr. 1,092
    No. 5 7.0 gr. 1,192
    231 4.2 gr. 1,135
    WSL 4.5 gr. 1,105
    WSF 5.7 gr. 1,165
    WAP 6.0 gr. 1,162
    VV N350 6.0 gr. 1,130
    125 grain Lead RN (.356" dia)
    Bullseye 4.7 gr. 1,105 FPS
    Unique 6.0 gr. 1,165
    No. 2 4.2 gr. 1,002
    No. 5 6.2 gr. 1,133
    231 4.0 gr. 1,035 updated 9-15-03 to lower 4.0 instead of 5.1
    WSL 3.8 gr. 985
    WSF 4.7 gr. 1,055
    125 grain FMC or JHP
    Bullseye 4.2 gr. 1,155 FPS
    Unique 6.0 gr. 1,150
    Universal 4.9 gr. 1,118
    Clays 3.7 gr. 1,056
    HP38 4.8 gr. 1,088
    No. 2 4.1 gr. 1,057
    No. 5 6.4 gr. 1,200
    231 4.1 gr. 1,095
    WSL 4.1 gr. 1,025
    WSF 5.3 gr. 1,115
    VV 3N37 6.3 gr. 1,165
    145 grain Lead RN (Round Nose)
    Bullseye 3.5 gr. 942 FPS
    Unique 3.8 gr. 1,108
    HS6 5.0 gr. 968
    No. 2 3.7 gr. 893
    No. 5 5.1 gr. 984
    No. 7 7.2 gr. 1,052
    WSF 3.9 gr. 961
    147 grain FMJ or JHP
    Bullseye 4.2 gr. 1,010 FPS
    Unique 4.4 gr. 1,010
    Universal 3.7 gr. 851
    HS6 6.0 gr. 973
    No. 2 4.0 gr. 888
    No. 5 5.3 gr. 991
    WSF 4.3 gr. 935
    WAP 4.7 gr. 964
    HP-38 3.5 grs. 818 to 825 fps (contributed by a friend)

    Discussion: Bullseye is a fast burning powder and perhaps better suited to the small cases like the 9mm. It burns completely and fast. Unique is a very consistent burning powder and it is almost a tossup with the heavier bullets. Universal, Clays and HS6 are from Hodgdon and similar to Bullseye and Unique. HS6 is slowest of the group (Similar to 2400) and takes quite a bit more powder. Respectively are No.2 and No.5 from Accurate.
    As you move up in loads, you at least need the gas check on the bottom of the bullet to prevent gas melting the lead and fouling the barrel. For any loads over 900 FPS, I suggest using a jacketed or plated bullet. Jacketed bullets create a bit more wear on the rifling, but it's better than trying to wire brush out a bunch of lead build up. Just depends on what kinds of loads you plan to shoot. A bullet with a copper gas check or copper plating is best for INDOOR ranges to keep lead vapors out of the air.
  4. Lloyd Braun

    Lloyd Braun Vancouver Active Member

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    avoid lead bullets when reloading 9mm

    use copper plated at least
  5. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    I've found alliant's data to be more than conservative. In fact so conservative on some of thier "max" loads that they don't even cycle. I would suggest cross-referencing your data with a sierra, hornady or other manual. I don't have them handy, but would highly recommend doing this. I would recommend starting out with bullseye at about .5gr below the "max listed" in the documentation from alliant. Be sure to take the time and test out the loads before you load up a bunch of them!
  6. markmx

    markmx Brooks, OR Member

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    FWIW - I loaded 14 rounds 9mm 115gr. RN, OAL 1.103 with 4.6gr. Bullseye yesterday afternoon, test fired these in a couple different guns and now good to go knock out some bulk.