I'll bet you a dollar if they passed a confiscation they will know who has what...
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I'll bet you a dollar if they passed a confiscation they will know who has what...
I was listening to AM talk radio this morning and there was a report of a rape over in Coeur d'alene ID. A reporter was talking to a few locals and this gal (who decided to keep her OPSEC in check by refusing to name herself) said "she would be keeping her daughters inside and her rifle under her pillow until they find this guy."Those lists/backdoor registration will eventually turn in to the ERPO lists of whos guns to take. If politicians cant force a registration/confiscation law or laws they will make gun owners who own over a certain number of firearms onto ERPO lists.
Idaho keeps sounding better and better. . .
I'll bet you a dollar if they passed a confiscation they will know who has what...
They will know who legally has guns...
Good old days of Walmart gun trades private transfer... No registration?
I wish I had your investigative skills. Could it be possible that the "director of licenses" was disbanded and quit storing applications in 1983? leaving that task to the CoP of each local municipality then later in 1994 that duty was transferred back to the "director of licenses"An additional detail -- the mention of sending a copy to the "director of licenses" is included in all the versions up through 1969. But the 1983 version indicates the chief of police will maintain a file containing the original application. Previously it mentioned the CoP getting a copy of the application.
What is interesting in the 1983 amendments, is that the removed text does not have the usual strikethrough, and the new text does not have the usual underline.
In 1994 (this one: 1994 sp.s. c 7 § 410), the CoP was relieved of the duty to keep a file of the applications and that duty transfered back to the Director of Licensing -- although it is sort of confusing because there seem to be multiple sections dealing with this issue.
I would say a tentative timeline (the legislation needs a more careful reading so don't take it as gospel) is:
- Before 1935: unknown
- 1935: Director of Licenses gets a copy.
- 1983: Director of Licenses removed from process, replaced by local Chief of Police
- 1996: Local CoP relieved of recordkeeping duty, Director of Licensing takes over.
... Could it be possible that the "director of licenses" was disbanded and quit storing applications in 1983? leaving that task to the CoP of each local municipality then later in 1994 that duty was transferred back to the "director of licenses" ...
No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners' Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary's authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.
I was thinking the question was on that topic. I think "Director of Licenses" and "Department of Licensing" basically mean the same thing - many state agencies have continued to do the same thing they've always done, but had their names changed.
The director of licensing is the person that oversees the department of licensing.
I'll have to look at FOPA -- that 1983 to 1996 gap where the local CoP was tasked with storing the documents is pretty interesting in this context. It may be that WA lost the right to keep this back door registry by relinquishing that job to local gov't entities during the time period FOPA passed, but that will depend on the language of FOPA (which I've never read) and looking at Federal legislation is a bit harder to do than Washington's, at least for me it is.
But, the "Only" purpose, in 1960, was to help you and others to get their Property back. In the '70s-'80s it was still that way.
If that was the only purpose, I would expect it to be voluntary -- like mailing in a warranty registration card.QUOTE]Well, I can attest to the fact that it did work the way it was supposed to during the '70-'80' time frame.
Which makes these Threads a complete waste of time. I do know I was only able to recover several stolen Pistols because the information was available at the time. That's good enough for me.What the other purposes were, is open to speculation.