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Personal Defense Ammo.. (Change with seasons?)

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by VW_Factor, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. VW_Factor

    VW_Factor Woodburn Oregon Active Member

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    Ballistics, ballistics...

    Given we are in the PNW, I would be pretty sure most of you who carry, use a "preferred" ammo for self defense. Given that the seasons around here vary fairly wildly, I would be pretty positive that most of us switch ammo from summer to winter.

    Winter ammo its a given to penetrate more layers of coats and/or clothing, and summer ammo, well. Not so much need for penetration of layers..

    How many of you switch summer to winter, what do you use, and why?
     
  2. tattoo

    tattoo NorthWest Active Member

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    Same Hollow point ammo in my guns 12 months out of the year. They work well out of my guns (Winchester 45) (Hornaday 9mm)
    Dave
     
  3. Benny503

    Benny503 Grants Pass Well-Known Member

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    I carry ammo that I use to practice with. Its kind of expensive but nothing worth more then my life or family members.
     
  4. oasis618

    oasis618 Tacoma, Wa Active Member

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    It's never even crossed my mind to change ammo with the seasons.
     
  5. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I used to think 124gr for the warmer months and 147gr for the winter but given how the HST in 147gr seems to expand so well I think it would be a good year-round ammo.
     
  6. supergenius

    supergenius 206 Active Member

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    CRITICAL DEFENSE or HST
     
  7. Old Hick

    Old Hick Oregon Active Member

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    Federal HST in my .40, and the Wife's 9mm. No need to change.


    Stay Safe.
     
  8. VW_Factor

    VW_Factor Woodburn Oregon Active Member

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    I am honestly surprised at the responses, and that not many more have responded.. Or told us why. >.<
     
  9. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Never though of changing. I carry Critical Defense in everything but my new Judge. When they make Critical Defense for it I'll change it too. I don't carry the Judge, it's kept in a vehicle only.

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  10. Bajablast

    Bajablast Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    Day in day out, it is Hornady Critical Defense in my EDC .380, and my home defender .45 ACP.

    Why should I change with the weather, when I have the best loaded at all times??

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  11. dragonsden73

    dragonsden73 Salem, Oregun Active Member

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    Two words....Head Shot.

    Nuff said.
     
  12. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    I use EFMJ for most of the winter and GDHP for summer.

    The EFMJ has better penetration and decent expansion. When penetration is a concern, I feel better carrying this ammo.
     
  13. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I really doubt that there would be that big of difference.
    Unless you are using heavy solid core game loads for the heavy fabric.

    Unless you are way north,this shouldn't be that much of a factor.I think a guy with a leather coat,or such would pose more of a problem than the guy with 4 layers of nylon and goose down.
     
  14. jyerxa

    jyerxa Graham Member

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    Whether the winter or summer, my 45 ACP winchester hallow points deliver the same foot pounds of energy. The bad guy will go down just the same.
     
  15. 4dogs

    4dogs 3 miles from the range Active Member

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    Double Tap JHPs year 'round...
     
  16. wichaka

    wichaka Wa State Well-Known Member

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    HP's from years ago would plug when going thru many layers of clothing, thus acting like a round nose. But the newer models out today don't have that problem, so there's no need to worry about it. And if people are buying up Hydra-Shok or the old Black Talon stuff, you're way behind the times...its old technology, and doesn't perform nearly as well of the current options out there.
     
  17. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    That's great.And the ammo manufacturers love you saying this too.
    And you are right,and it is necessary to have the "new improved" rounds for some calibers.
    And for some shooters.

    BUT,if I can put 5 rounds of target load in a guys chest cavity (and I would probably do the same with any load) the MF is gunna fall.

    This is the same as all the different calibers out there. A 38 was doing fine for years,but we needed (Elmer Keith needed,I think) a 357
    The 30-06 is perfect for most game,but someone needed the 300RUM

    Manufacturers "NEED" more sales,and will always engineer something "new and improved" to make us buy more.

    Now don't get me wrong,I fall for this sh.it all the time,but I also know my old "rangers" will drop a bad guy.Or my target loads.
     
  18. The Quiet Man

    The Quiet Man rural Washington County, Oregon Active Member

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    Oh ya, you betcha then. The new hollow points have a built-in "force field" that keeps cloth and other materials from plugging it up. I believe they started doing that in December of 2010, so all HP bullets from earlier times are worthless unless you shoot bare skin. Everyone please PM me with arrangement for me to pick up all your worthless ammo for proper disposal. :laugh:
     
  19. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Now that's funny poo right there.I don't care who you are.