Pepper ball guns

[Goodknight]

Does anyone have any experience with pepper ball guns. From a non lethal stand point looks like a viable option.
Looked on net for reviews but it's spotty at best.

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[Nick Burkhardt]

Only good for LARPing.

A good way to end up in the hospital if you need to use it for real self defense.

Hall said he grabbed hold of a non-lethal handgun that can shoot hard pellets to try to get the people to clear the way

https://www.theblaze.com/news/portland-attack-leftists-protest-video

 

[TTSX]

Unless you shot them in the face/nuts, I think a good, sharp stick would be better. Haven't seen an example yet that shows they're effective

 

[Alexx1401]

Does anyone have any experience with pepper ball guns. From a non lethal stand point looks like a viable option.
Looked on net for reviews but it's spotty at best.

This place seems to make a good product.

Byrna SD Launcher - Universal Kit

The Byrna SD (Self Defense) is the successor of the Byrna HD. It has been re-engineered for optimal performance. Powered by compressed air (CO2), the Byrna SD shoots .68 caliber round kinetic and/or chemical irritant projectiles that can disable a threat from up to 50-feet away. It is an...

byrna.com

I tried a year or so back to order one for one kid who refuses to own a gun. After month of them charging my card and never sending anything I told them give me my money back and they did. There is a lot of video of people who were able to buy one. Most favorable to some extent. For the cost you can buy a decent pistol. For people who just will not own a gun? I guess it could not hurt. It most likely would make some scum find an easier target if they were shot in the face with one.

 

[Certaindeaf]

I heard it's pretty flammable so make sure your Zippo is topped up.

 

[Goodknight]

Appreciate everyone's perspective. Thx

 

[RVTECH]

From a non lethal stand point looks like a viable option.

It could be in a low intensity, non-lethal situation however I believe drawing something that very much looks like a gun is going to come with its own set of problems, and it has been discussed before.

 

[Goodknight]

As our pacific NW and many parts of this great country turn bluer and bluer and progressive prosecuting attornies keep getting elected, stakes for anyone exercising their CHL right have never been higher. I think we should be open to every non lethal means of defending ourselves and our families when out in public. In fact any good attorney will tell you that is imperative that anyone carrying should also have a non lethal method of self defense. Equal force and all. There are those my wife included that are not interested in carrying a fire arm. The mace on key chain she carries is less than optimum way of defense. Food for thought!

 

[The B]

having been shot by a few, id say theyre about as effective as airsoft... stings a little when they hit you, can make you cough and have to clear your throat a few times while you beat the bubblegum out of the person who shot you

 

[Alexx1401]

As our pacific NW and many parts of this great country turn bluer and bluer and progressive prosecuting attornies keep getting elected, stakes for anyone exercising their CHL right have never been higher. I think we should be open to every non lethal means of defending ourselves and our families when out in public. In fact any good attorney will tell you that is imperative that anyone carrying should also have a non lethal method of self defense. Equal force and all. There are those my wife included that are not interested in carrying a fire arm. The mace on key chain she carries is less than optimum way of defense. Food for thought!

To me? Yes. I look at stuff like this the same way I look at a safe to keep guns in. Every time it comes up you get a lot of "if its not a bank type vault its worthless".
To me any safe is better than no safe. Any gun is better than no gun and any form of defense is better than dial a prayer, (911) so to each their own. The reason I had long ago tried to buy one of these is one kid flat will not own a gun. I have given her OC and and Asp baton. Those she accepted. I was going to get one of these, give it a test out and give it to her. The idea again being if she will not own a gun its got to be better than nothing.

 

[dingo97223]

There are many options on the market, and all are great when non lethal force is needed, and also for individuals who refuse to/cannot carry something lethal. There are differences in regard to irritant potency, velocity, cartridge shape, and how it is deployed/ejected from the launchers which are also different. Some can even be lethal, and just like regular weapons, training and comprehensive understanding of the launcher is always beneficial to the user.

I believe they have their place in the self defense space, and I own a few. They can stop someone, they don't require a license/permit, they can be carried where regular weapons are not allowed, and they can help protect you without the legal implications/perils, psychological distress, and cost associated with the use of lethal force.

I recommend to do your own research (YouTube is great for that) and get something that suits your needs and budget.

Here are a few links showing what some of the launchers are capable of:

Different types

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hp68+grimburg

Piexon / JpX

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnVT03gtMOE

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkLG-y8Q9Z0

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pahHZqvvmg


PepperBall TCP

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nFCcv2vaNU

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtLo21mxH7Y


As an EDC, I like the JPX better since is more compact, can be used indoors with better irritant placement without contaminating everybody around , and I can aim at the head/face without the risk of penetration.
However, I own other different brands like PepperBall (I like TCP), BYRNA, FN303, Tippmann, for different self defense scenarios.

I highly recommend a less lethal option next to/additionally a lethal option, to anyone concerned about their safety.

 

[solv3nt]

There are many options on the market, and all are great when non lethal force is needed, and also for individuals who refuse to/cannot carry something lethal. There are differences in regard to irritant potency, velocity, cartridge shape, and how it is deployed/ejected from the launchers which are also different. Some can even be lethal, and just like regular weapons, training and comprehensive understanding of the launcher is always beneficial to the user.

I believe they have their place in the self defense space, and I own a few. They can stop someone, they don't require a license/permit, they can be carried where regular weapons are not allowed, and they can help protect you without the legal implications/perils, psychological distress, and cost associated with the use of lethal force.

I recommend to do your own research (YouTube is great for that) and get something that suits your needs and budget.

Here are a few links showing what some of the launchers are capable of:

Different types

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hp68+grimburg

Piexon / JpX

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnVT03gtMOE

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkLG-y8Q9Z0

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pahHZqvvmg


PepperBall TCP

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nFCcv2vaNU

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtLo21mxH7Y


As an EDC, I like the JPX better since is more compact, can be used indoors with better irritant placement without contaminating everybody around , and I can aim at the head/face without the risk of penetration.
However, I own other different brands like PepperBall (I like TCP), BYRNA, FN303, Tippmann, for different self defense scenarios.

I highly recommend a less lethal option next to/additionally a lethal option, to anyone concerned about their safety.

 

[billdeserthills]

I have heard good things about Kimber's Pepper Blaster

Kimber PepperBlaster II: A Review

I have to admit, I’ve become somewhat of a fan. The unit is light and compact enough that it can be conveniently carried by dropping it in a pocket (unless you wear your pants...

www.officer.com

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Does anyone have any experience with pepper ball guns. From a non lethal stand point looks like a viable option.
Looked on net for reviews but it's spotty at best.

What specific scenarios are you thinking it might be useful for? Would you actually be carrying it on your person for those scenarios?

 

[Certaindeaf]

In a world of compromise, some men pepper ball gun.
Don't do that.

 

[Xaevian]

Keep it in the freezer and aim for the pepper balls for some lolz!

 

[ma96782]

Aloha, Mark

 

[GrayGoose]

Shoot a pepper ball into your taco for some extra zing!

 

[Alexx1401]

Since this thread got resurrected I will chime in that I did a review of the model that Bynya makes a while back. When I first tried to order one back a few years ago they were having BIG time problems and were taking a LONG time to get an order out. I gave up. Then about a year and a half back saw they were being sold on Amazon. So did buy one to test for the one kid who refuses to own a gun. It impressed me enough to buy another for me as a less than option for one job. They are NOT cheap by any stretch. Cost more than many firearms but, damn things do work VERY well. Watching the video's of the other options that were posted here they are IMHO FAR better. Again these are NOT something many will want but, if someone does want one of these less than I can recommend the one Byrna makes. Especially buying from Amazon. Nice part of buying through Amazon is if there is a problem you just get your money back.

 

[po18guy]

Kimber makes a pepper spray "deringer" with two rounds. A "shoot and run" type defense.