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Patriot Act renewal, Republicans just don't get it!

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Trlsmn, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Blitzkrieg and (deleted member) like this.
  2. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    Patriot Act renewal, Politicians just don't get it!

    Fixed it for you.

    NONE of them get it. They are all in it to gain power, keep their jobs and get rich. NOTHING else matters.
  3. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Here is a list of Congress critters that consider Americans subjects and not citizens.

    Yea NY-5 Ackerman, Gary [D]
    Yea FL-24 Adams, Sandy [R]
    Yea AL-4 Aderholt, Robert [R]
    Yea MO-2 Akin, W. [R]
    Yea LA-5 Alexander, Rodney [R]
    Yea PA-4 Altmire, Jason [D]
    Yea OH-7 Austria, Steve [R]
    Yea CA-43 Baca, Joe [D]
    Yea MN-6 Bachmann, Michele [R]
    Yea AL-6 Bachus, Spencer [R]
    Yea PA-11 Barletta, Lou [R]
    Yea GA-12 Barrow, John [D]
    Yea TX-6 Barton, Joe [R]
    Yea NH-2 Bass, Charles [R]
    Yea MI-1 Benishek, Dan [R]
    Yea ND-0 Berg, Rick [R]
    Yea NV-1 Berkley, Shelley [D]
    Yea IL-13 Biggert, Judy [R]
    Yea CA-50 Bilbray, Brian [R]
    Yea FL-9 Bilirakis, Gus [R]
    Yea GA-2 Bishop, Sanford [D]
    Yea NY-1 Bishop, Timothy [D]
    Yea TN-6 Black, Diane [R]
    Yea TN-7 Blackburn, Marsha [R]
    Yea AL-1 Bonner, Jo [R]
    Yea CA-45 Bono Mack, Mary [R]
    Yea OK-2 Boren, Dan [D]
    Yea IA-3 Boswell, Leonard [D]
    Yea LA-7 Boustany, Charles [R]
    Yea TX-8 Brady, Kevin [R]
    Yea AL-5 Brooks, Mo [R]
    Yea FL-13 Buchanan, Vern [R]
    Yea IN-8 Bucshon, Larry [R]
    Yea NY-25 Buerkle, Ann Marie [R]
    Yea TX-26 Burgess, Michael [R]
    Yea IN-5 Burton, Dan [R]
    Yea CA-44 Calvert, Ken [R]
    Yea MI-4 Camp, David [R]
    Yea TX-23 Canseco, Francisco [R]
    Yea VA-7 Cantor, Eric [R]
    Yea WV-2 Capito, Shelley [R]
    Yea CA-18 Cardoza, Dennis [D]
    Yea MO-3 Carnahan, Russ [D]
    Yea DE-0 Carney, John [D]
    Yea TX-31 Carter, John [R]
    Yea LA-6 Cassidy, Bill [R]
    Yea FL-11 Castor, Kathy [D]
    Yea OH-1 Chabot, Steven [R]
    Yea UT-3 Chaffetz, Jason [R]
    Yea KY-6 Chandler, Ben [D]
    Yea NC-6 Coble, Howard [R]
    Yea CO-6 Coffman, Mike [R]
    Yea OK-4 Cole, Tom [R]
    Yea TX-11 Conaway, K. [R]
    Yea VA-11 Connolly, Gerald [D]
    Yea TN-5 Cooper, Jim [D]
    Yea CA-20 Costa, Jim [D]
    Yea CT-2 Courtney, Joe [D]
    Yea MN-8 Cravaack, Chip [R]
    Yea FL-4 Crenshaw, Ander [R]
    Yea PA-12 Critz, Mark [D]
    Yea TX-28 Cuellar, Henry [D]
    Yea TX-7 Culberson, John [R]
    Yea KY-4 Davis, Geoff [R]
    Yea CA-53 Davis, Susan [D]
    Yea CA-19 Denham, Jeff [R]
    Yea PA-15 Dent, Charles [R]
    Yea TN-4 DesJarlais, Scott [R]
    Yea FL-21 Diaz-Balart, Mario [R]
    Yea WA-6 Dicks, Norman [D]
    Yea IL-10 Dold, Bob [R]
    Yea IN-2 Donnelly, Joe [D]
    Yea CA-26 Dreier, David [R]
    Yea WI-7 Duffy, Sean [R]
    Yea SC-3 Duncan, Jeff [R]
    Yea NC-2 Ellmers, Renee [R]
    Yea MO-8 Emerson, Jo Ann [R]
    Yea TX-27 Farenthold, Blake [R]
    Yea TN-8 Fincher, Stephen [R]
    Yea AZ-6 Flake, Jeff [R]
    Yea TN-3 Fleischmann, Chuck [R]
    Yea LA-4 Fleming, John [R]
    Yea TX-17 Flores, Bill [R]
    Yea VA-4 Forbes, J. [R]
    Yea NE-1 Fortenberry, Jeffrey [R]
    Yea NC-5 Foxx, Virginia [R]
    Yea AZ-2 Franks, Trent [R]
    Yea NJ-11 Frelinghuysen, Rodney [R]
    Yea CA-24 Gallegly, Elton [R]
    Yea CO-4 Gardner, Cory [R]
    Yea PA-6 Gerlach, Jim [R]
    Yea OH-18 Gibbs, Bob [R]
    Yea GA-11 Gingrey, John [R]
    Yea TX-1 Gohmert, Louis [R]
    Yea VA-6 Goodlatte, Robert [R]
    Yea AZ-1 Gosar, Paul [R]
    Yea SC-4 Gowdy, Trey [R]
    Yea TX-12 Granger, Kay [R]
    Yea MO-6 Graves, Samuel [R]
    Yea AR-2 Griffin, Tim [R]
    Yea VA-9 Griffith, H. [R]
    Yea NY-13 Grimm, Michael [R]
    Yea NH-1 Guinta, Frank [R]
    Yea KY-2 Guthrie, Brett [R]
    Yea TX-4 Hall, Ralph [R]
    Yea CA-36 Harman, Jane [D]
    Yea MS-3 Harper, Gregg [R]
    Yea MD-1 Harris, Andy [R]
    Yea MO-4 Hartzler, Vicky [R]
    Yea FL-23 Hastings, Alcee [D]
    Yea WA-4 Hastings, Doc [R]
    Yea NY-19 Hayworth, Nan [R]
    Yea NV-3 Heck, Joe [R]
    Yea NM-1 Heinrich, Martin [D]
    Yea TX-5 Hensarling, Jeb [R]
    Yea CA-2 Herger, Walter [R]
    Yea WA-3 Herrera Beutler, Jaime [R]
    Yea NY-27 Higgins, Brian [D]
    Yea TX-15 Hinojosa, Rubén [D]
    Yea PA-17 Holden, Tim [D]
    Yea MD-5 Hoyer, Steny [D]
    Yea KS-1 Huelskamp, Tim [R]
    Yea MI-2 Huizenga, Bill [R]
    Yea CA-52 Hunter, Duncan [R]
    Yea VA-5 Hurt, Robert [R]
    Yea WA-1 Inslee, Jay [D]
    Yea NY-2 Israel, Steve [D]
    Yea CA-49 Issa, Darrell [R]
    Yea KS-2 Jenkins, Lynn [R]
    Yea OH-6 Johnson, Bill [R]
    Yea TX-3 Johnson, Samuel [R]
    Yea OH-4 Jordan, Jim [R]
    Yea MA-10 Keating, William [D]
    Yea PA-3 Kelly, Mike [R]
    Yea WI-3 Kind, Ronald [D]
    Yea NY-3 King, Peter [R]
    Yea IA-5 King, Steve [R]
    Yea IL-11 Kinzinger, Adam [R]
    Yea NC-8 Kissell, Larry [D]
    Yea MN-2 Kline, John [R]
    Yea NJ-7 Lance, Leonard [R]
    Yea LA-3 Landry, Jeff [R]
    Yea RI-2 Langevin, James [D]
    Yea OK-5 Lankford, James [R]
    Yea WA-2 Larsen, Rick [D]
    Yea IA-4 Latham, Thomas [R]
    Yea OH-14 LaTourette, Steven [R]
    Yea OH-5 Latta, Robert [R]
    Yea NY-26 Lee, Christopher [R]
    Yea MI-12 Levin, Sander [D]
    Yea CA-41 Lewis, Jerry [R]
    Yea IL-3 Lipinski, Daniel [D]
    Yea NJ-2 LoBiondo, Frank [R]
    Yea MO-7 Long, Billy [R]
    Yea NY-18 Lowey, Nita [D]
    Yea OK-3 Lucas, Frank [R]
    Yea MO-9 Luetkemeyer, Blaine [R]
    Yea WY-0 Lummis, Cynthia [R]
    Yea CA-3 Lungren, Daniel [R]
    Yea MA-9 Lynch, Stephen [D]
    Yea IL-16 Manzullo, Donald [R]
    Yea PA-10 Marino, Thomas [R]
    Yea UT-2 Matheson, Jim [D]
    Yea NY-4 McCarthy, Carolyn [D]
    Yea CA-22 McCarthy, Kevin [R]
    Yea TX-10 McCaul, Michael [R]
    Yea MI-11 McCotter, Thaddeus [R]
    Yea NC-10 McHenry, Patrick [R]
    Yea NC-7 McIntyre, Mike [D]
    Yea CA-25 McKeon, Howard [R]
    Yea WV-1 McKinley, David [R]
    Yea WA-5 McMorris Rodgers, Cathy [R]
    Yea CA-11 McNerney, Jerry [D]
    Yea PA-7 Meehan, Patrick [R]
    Yea FL-7 Mica, John [R]
    Yea MI-10 Miller, Candice [R]
    Yea CA-42 Miller, Gary [R]
    Yea FL-1 Miller, Jeff [R]
    Yea NC-13 Miller, R. [D]
    Yea SC-5 Mulvaney, Mick [R]
    Yea CT-5 Murphy, Christopher [D]
    Yea PA-18 Murphy, Tim [R]
    Yea NC-9 Myrick, Sue [R]
    Yea TX-19 Neugebauer, Randy [R]
    Yea SD-0 Noem, Kristi [R]
    Yea FL-5 Nugent, Richard [R]
    Yea CA-21 Nunes, Devin [R]
    Yea MS-1 Nunnelee, Alan [R]
    Yea TX-22 Olson, Pete [R]
    Yea MS-4 Palazzo, Steven [R]
    Yea NJ-8 Pascrell, William [D]
    Yea MN-3 Paulsen, Erik [R]
    Yea NM-2 Pearce, Steven [R]
    Yea IN-6 Pence, Mike [R]
    Yea CO-7 Perlmutter, Ed [D]
    Yea MI-9 Peters, Gary [D]
    Yea MN-7 Peterson, Collin [D]
    Yea WI-6 Petri, Thomas [R]
    Yea PA-16 Pitts, Joseph [R]
    Yea PA-19 Platts, Todd [R]
    Yea TX-2 Poe, Ted [R]
    Yea KS-4 Pompeo, Mike [R]
    Yea GA-6 Price, Tom [R]
    Yea AZ-3 Quayle, Ben [R]
    Yea IL-5 Quigley, Mike [D]
    Yea WV-3 Rahall, Nick [D]
    Yea NY-29 Reed, Tom [R]
    Yea WA-8 Reichert, Dave [R]
    Yea OH-16 Renacci, Jim [R]
    Yea TX-16 Reyes, Silvestre [D]
    Yea WI-8 Ribble, Reid [R]
    Yea VA-2 Rigell, E. [R]
    Yea FL-25 Rivera, David [R]
    Yea AL-2 Roby, Martha [R]
    Yea KY-5 Rogers, Harold [R]
    Yea AL-3 Rogers, Michael [R]
    Yea MI-8 Rogers, Michael [R]
    Yea IN-4 Rokita, Todd [R]
    Yea FL-16 Rooney, Thomas [R]
    Yea IL-6 Roskam, Peter [R]
    Yea FL-18 Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [R]
    Yea FL-12 Ross, Dennis [R]
    Yea AR-4 Ross, Mike [D]
    Yea NJ-9 Rothman, Steven [D]
    Yea CA-40 Royce, Edward [R]
    Yea NJ-3 Runyan, Jon [R]
    Yea MD-2 Ruppersberger, C.A. [D]
    Yea WI-1 Ryan, Paul [R]
    Yea LA-1 Scalise, Steve [R]
    Yea CA-29 Schiff, Adam [D]
    Yea OH-2 Schmidt, Jean [R]
    Yea IL-18 Schock, Aaron [R]
    Yea PA-13 Schwartz, Allyson [D]
    Yea GA-8 Scott, Austin [R]
    Yea GA-13 Scott, David [D]
    Yea SC-1 Scott, Tim [R]
    Yea WI-5 Sensenbrenner, F. [R]
    Yea TX-32 Sessions, Peter [R]
    Yea AL-7 Sewell, Terri [D]
    Yea IL-19 Shimkus, John [R]
    Yea NC-11 Shuler, Heath [D]
    Yea PA-9 Shuster, William [R]
    Yea ID-2 Simpson, Michael [R]
    Yea NJ-13 Sires, Albio [D]
    Yea WA-9 Smith, Adam [D]
    Yea NE-3 Smith, Adrian [R]
    Yea NJ-4 Smith, Christopher [R]
    Yea TX-21 Smith, Lamar [R]
    Yea FL-2 Southerland, Steve [R]
    Yea FL-6 Stearns, Clifford [R]
    Yea OH-15 Stivers, Steve [R]
    Yea IN-3 Stutzman, Marlin [R]
    Yea OK-1 Sullivan, John [R]
    Yea NE-2 Terry, Lee [R]
    Yea PA-5 Thompson, Glenn [R]
    Yea TX-13 Thornberry, William [R]
    Yea OH-12 Tiberi, Patrick [R]
    Yea CO-3 Tipton, Scott [R]
    Yea MA-5 Tsongas, Niki [D]
    Yea OH-3 Turner, Michael [R]
    Yea MI-6 Upton, Frederick [R]
    Yea MD-8 Van Hollen, Christopher [D]
    Yea MI-7 Walberg, Timothy [R]
    Yea OR-2 Walden, Greg [R]
    Yea IL-8 Walsh, Joe [R]
    Yea FL-8 Webster, Daniel [R]
    Yea FL-22 West, Allen [R]
    Yea GA-3 Westmoreland, Lynn [R]
    Yea KY-1 Whitfield, Edward [R]
    Yea SC-2 Wilson, Addison [R]
    Yea VA-1 Wittman, Rob [R]
    Yea VA-10 Wolf, Frank [R]
    Yea AR-3 Womack, Steve [R]
    Yea KY-3 Yarmuth, John [D]
    Yea KS-3 Yoder, Kevin [R]
    Yea FL-10 Young, C. W. [R]
    Yea IN-9 Young, Todd [R]
  4. olydemon

    olydemon Olympia Active Member

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    What a shame.
  5. jimwsea

    jimwsea Vancouver, Washington state Active Member

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    On one hand, 1/3 of them get it.

    On the other hand, this could all have been manipulated to pass by one vote and keep the right-left red-blue polarization going.

    Tom Ridge admitted that he was coerced to raising the "terror alert" level at politically expedient times. I wonder what were the effects of Big Sis Napolitano's media scare tactics (the few days before the vote)
    Homeland Security Chief Warns: US Terror Threat ‘Most Heightened’ Since 9/11 | The Blaze
  6. Scott

    Scott Battle Ground Well-Known Member

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    You know what is funny about that? Why people in the senate and house have a average net worth of over 10 million keep wanting to get paid about $120,000? There a lot of people worth more I don't think it is so much about power but money. Swing votes to their advantage and keep the money rolling in.
  7. Artilleryman

    Artilleryman Originally from the central midwest but have reloc Active Member

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    obama renewed it not long ago iirc, AFTER campaigning against it (not to mention all the patriot act bashing that his millions of democrat supporters did all during Bush's years).I believe he may have even added to it..... but either way, the democrats are at least as responsible for it as the rebublicans- and when considering the amount of squawking the dems have done about it, and as frequently as they've used it to demonize the republicans, I'd have to say the democrats have shown far less integrity where this issue is concerned
  8. Ragingpit

    Ragingpit Rochester,WA Member

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    What????? Jamie Herrera voted for it. I guess she doesn't believe in the 4th amendment after all.....
  9. MikeSettles

    MikeSettles Vancouver, Washington Active Member

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    Wasn't mentioned in the thread so far: Rules were suspended so they could do a voice vote with almost no debate. 2/3 "yea" required to pass, and they they failed to get the super-majority. This bill also extended those provisions to September (or so) of this year.
  10. dario541

    dario541 medford, or 97504 Member

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    Once they arrive in Washington D(istrict) (of) C(riminals), members of both parties find their heads swelling with the knowledge that they are now the "Elite" of America. Once they become ensconsed in America's version of the Supreme Soviet, legislooters no longer are interested in what their constituants want. In D. C. I consider the difference between DemoRats and Repugnicans the same as the difference between a violin and a fiddle. Therefore I registered as "Unaffiliated."
  11. zdogk9

    zdogk9 Pacific County New Member

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    Guess Herrera could turn out to be a one term wonder. She will get an email from me to that effect.
  12. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    You are right on the money!
  13. Ragingpit

    Ragingpit Rochester,WA Member

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    Already called and left a message with my .02.... Stated she needed to read the 4th amendment.....
  14. CEF1959

    CEF1959 Willamette Valley, Oregon New Member

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    Trlsmn had it right the first time: It's the R's that don't get it. This was passed by the House on a largely party-line vote, with R's overwhelmingly voting in favor of a larger, more intrusive federal government, and the D's overwhelmingly voting against.

    So much for the party of smaller government....
  15. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    Really? You think the D's 'get it'? Please explain health care, gun control, our current tax system, Fannie or Freddie mae to name a few.

    And if you think R's 'get it' please explain the wall street bailouts, Iraq, Afghanistan, the war on drugs, gay marriage to name a few.

    DC is a cesspool of selfish, immoral, scheming, money grubbers that are looking out for themselves.

    Want to know why? Because we let them. We ask them to keep doing what they are doing because we keep sending them back.
  16. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, just because the I posted the Republicans don't get it doesn't mean the Democrats get it either.
  17. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Traitors, traitors everywhere

    What's a patriot to do?

    What did the Founders do?

    Just remember Jefferson and his Tree of Liberty comment

    I suppose Jefferson would have been renditioned to Egypt these days
  18. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    I'm just surprised I haven't heard the phrase bipartisan collaboration used to refer to passing this. All the pols who voted for this regardless of political affiliation are wrong. It has me agreeing with some pols who I don't often agree with as well.
  19. Spad

    Spad Kennewick,WA, the desert side Active Member

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    :thumbup:Sure glad they extended it. :thumbup:Spad
  20. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    It's not "we", the US is a tyranny of the majority and all the government has to do is bribe just enough people with our own tax money to retain power. The bribed sheeple will vote for anyone who promises entitlements and/or taking care of the bogeyman, whichever one is in season (muslims, gays, mexicans, drug users, bankers, etc).