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Para is dead! Killed off

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by Pandaz3, Feb 9, 2015.

  1. Pandaz3

    Pandaz3 Cornelius, Oregon NRA Lifetime Member Platinum Supporter Gold Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    True the guns will be around and many of the model names will be the same. Remington will be the brand. Para had recently moved to Carolina and now has to move yet again to Huntsville, Alabama, Bet that helps the build quality.
     
  2. Modeler

    Modeler Molalla, Oregon Soccer Fan

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    Effing Freedom Group bought up another successful company? MF'ers. Why can't they leave success alone instead of buying and killing it?
     
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  3. sixfoot674

    sixfoot674 canby Member

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    freedom group has bought up para, remington, DPMS, advanced armament corp, bushmaster and alot of other companies
     
  4. Pandaz3

    Pandaz3 Cornelius, Oregon NRA Lifetime Member Platinum Supporter Gold Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Yes they did acknowledge in their press release that they badly hurt Marlin with the move and the R-51 was poorly handled.
     
  5. mkwerx

    mkwerx Forest Grove, OR Well-Known Member

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    Remington Warthog now? Remington 14.45? Why doesn't Freedom Group acquire Colt next? or FN? :rolleyes: We could enjoy the Marlin FiveseveN (or just call it a Marlin 5.7) or a Bushmaster PS90. Doesn't Mossberg also fall under the Freedom Group umbrella, or am I mistaken on that?

    I am envisioning a potential Mossberg Special Night Ops LDA with Chainsaw grip, extended magazine, and picatinny rail on top of the slide and on both flats on the sides of the slide, and milled out for an RMR. Then you could attach a visible green laser, an IR laser, a flashlight/red laser combo, and a flip away magnifier on top of the gun, of course with extra tall suppressor sights, threaded ported barrel and fully ambidextrous mag release, slide stop, and extended dehorned thumb safety... :D MSRP 599.99 of course.
     
  6. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Why would they buy FN? [emoji1] Quick internet search shows FN beat them by about 100 million in earnings last year. They are stable, making money, and have huge military contracts from the US and others. Frankly I don't see Freedom Group buying anything else, just consolidating.

    Its sad really seeing these once great brands falter. I have a pre-Remington Marlin 1894 that I love and will never sell. And an older 700 that is a great rifle. I won't sell it either, but when I go looking for a new rifle it will be a Savage, Sako, Tikka or maybe even a Winchester. All that said, my 1911R1 Enhanced I bought last year is a wonderful gun!
     
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  7. techiej

    techiej vancouver, wa Active Member

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    Well that must mean that my Para Target Elite will be worth more as a collectable :cool:.
     
  8. coupeowner

    coupeowner SW Portland Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Didn't this happen a few years ago??

    Just got the rebate check back from my Target Elite. - Damn, it took them long enough (over two months).
     
  9. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Para was purchased by Freedom Group a few years ago, but they were still Para, producing guns under the Para name. Now, there will no longer be a Para and all guns will be produced under the Remington name.
     
  10. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    Colt wouldn't really be worth buying. Unless you are 50+ the name really means "overpriced 70s era bubblegum." They have a LOT of debt too.
     
  11. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Maybe not as successful as you think or they might have not sold. Don't blame the buyer - blame the seller - they made the choice.
     
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  12. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Get as many as you can under one company and its easier to drive them out of business. Take too much money for a lot of fights but easier if they are all under one roof. Lot of bundling going on in business, makes them easy to control.
     
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  13. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Yea and that little Black Friday dump of Para 1911s for $299 was most likely not a publicity stunt but a well orchestrated plan to get rid of a LOT of inventory fast at a nearly unheard of price (for this day and age) when the market clearly bears a higher price for even a basic 1911. I suspect the numbers revealed Para guns sales had dropped off dramatically (as have gun sales in general) but Para was most likely setting on a LOT of inventory and someone came up with a plan to dump it all. It appears to have worked.
     
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  14. B5Ben

    B5Ben Boise Well-Known Member

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    I too just received my rebate check in the last week. Took almost two months but that was *kind of* expected. What I didn't expect was my return authorization for warranty work to be through Remington for $hitty barrel rifling. Hopefully they make it right and replace the barrel because it cant be fixed.

    Sorry to see another American company go to the conglomerate though. In the end it will be a dis-service to use gun loving consumers as competition drives innovation and ultimately sales.
     
  15. JohnnyD

    JohnnyD Vancouver Bang Bang

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    Wasn't para a Canadian company?
     
  16. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    The only dis-service about it is a company that cannot compete in the quality arena. Your $hitty barrel rifling is not the only negative thing I have heard about after talking to several people who bought them. $299 may have been TOO good to be true - well maybe TRUE, but not so good. Anyone remember the Yugo and the various methods dealers used to 'dump' them?
     
  17. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    2009 Para Ordnance (Canadian Company) moved to the US and became Para-USA (USA Company) In 2011 Para-USA was bought by FG.
     
  18. JohnnyD

    JohnnyD Vancouver Bang Bang

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    Got ya
     
  19. Modeler

    Modeler Molalla, Oregon Soccer Fan

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    I guess Freedom Group already owned it so the fault is theirs after all. The change is rolling the Para product line into Remington.
     
  20. coupeowner

    coupeowner SW Portland Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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