Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Riot, Mar 28, 2011.
I have learned the hard way to cooperate with the police, this guy is looking for trouble.
They are the calm police I want to help me....... Thank God I have never called a cop. There never there when you need them. I just wish the military had their pay and pensions. Good people skills too.
Did you hear the entire audio? True, he should've just got down on his knees but the SGT lied and said the guy kept his hands in his pockets when his supervisor showed up...then scolded him about the law and stated that he couldn't open carry- ever.
Expect lots more of this, the Poo-Poo are controled by the unions. What better way to oppress the PPL than to use an armed and corrupt force that obeys no law except that which oppreses the citizenery
Ayn Rand said it better but I do not have her on tap at the moment.
"Top Down" van jones
Here's the man in question
Arrested by the Philadelphia Police for Open Carry
Cooperate. Lawyer up. Lawsuit.
Cops acted like unprofessional thugs.
"Get down on your knees!" could well be the epitaph of the Republic
oh oh cop bashing ............ They are thugs and I am glad he recorded it. Imagine if it was not recorded? Thats why all the cops on COPS are so nice and concerning because it is all on film.
Because if you don't cooperate with the cops, they'll murder you: YouTube - Radley Balko on the 3 Worst Cases of Police Abuse in 2011
The problem here is the same I continue to run into (see my silencer thread), HOW CAN LAW ENFORCEMENT ENFORCE LAWS THEY DO NOT KNOW????????
Disgusting stuff, cops like these give the rest a bad name.
This guy is a jerk and is his own worst enemy! He should have complied with the police and showed him the license. Buy not doing so, he dug his own grave, and maybe he will loose his license for his conduct during this conflict.
Did you even listen to it? He tried to show the Sgt. his license and the Sgt. told him if he moved he was gonna kill him.
If this guy is first directed by a cop to do so and so, then, do it. If the cop violates his rights then, well, he can sue the cop and the department. He was resisting ever step of the way and escalated his own demise. This matter could have de-escalated very easily and without incident if the OC guy had first complied, talked politely, and cooperated with the cops. If they screwed up, then they did so at their own demise. Being a loud mouth, regardless if he was on the lawful side, does nothing; he is not the judge, DA nor the Police chief on the spot. His power comes from being polite, cooperative, and informative to the police--even if they are in the wrong. If they arrest him for lawful behavior--which his big mouth and offensive conduct is chargable and as well as interference with police duties, will get him in trouble. He made matters worse--regardless if he had a lawful right to carry. He does not have a lawful right to be a big mouth nor uncooperative within that context. The DA could go after his butt outside of the lawful OC if the DA wanted to. It is on video and taped. Good enough evidence for the DA.
I think we heard different tapes. I did not hear him shouting his mouth off but he was rather polite and asked questions ending in sir!!!!!
When the rest of riot patrol arrived all I heard was shut the F up, F no, stupid F'er.
I think you have it backwards.
The only loudmouth is the pathetic excuse of a cop caught on tape threatening a civilian for no reason other than to power-trip.
I don't care how polite he was being, he was acting like an a**. A permit to carry does not give you a right to argue with cops or refuse to comply with their instructions. They still have authority over you. If they are not aware of the exact law they will sort it out after they figure out if you're legal or not. Why don't people get this? And since when does a CCW allow you to open carry?
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