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Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by Anton, Oct 20, 2013.

  1. Anton

    Anton milwaukie Member

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    I have a Remington peerless feild over under shotty
    Great gun but serial number is crossed through need help
    Finding a gunsmith to fix it or re stamp the serial number
    Any suggestions where to go? Thanks
     
  2. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    What do you mean crossed through? What needs fixing? What's the known history of the firearm?
     
  3. Anton

    Anton milwaukie Member

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    The serial number has a scratch through it I checked the shotgun
    Through police department and it's not stolen or anything
    Just they told me in order to avoid future problems to get it fixed
    I can post a pic if that would help
     
  4. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Pics would be nice.
     
  5. Anton

    Anton milwaukie Member

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    image.jpg

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  6. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Looks like someone thought it would be a good idea to make a mess of it. Any smith and can restamp the number no problem..
     
  7. Anton

    Anton milwaukie Member

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    Any recommendations in Portland area?
     
  8. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Harbor Freight sells number punch sets for $8.99 1/8" size
    Re-stamp the numbers right below the original ones and then file off the messed up ones.
    Birchwood Casey Perma Blue to match.
     
  9. Straight Shooter

    Straight Shooter North Bend OR Active Member

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    Yours is clearly attempted to be obliterated. All I can say is I'm surprised the cops didn't at the minimum take it from you. It is a felony to alter or posses a firearm with an altered serial number. I would call the ATF and ask them to pick it up. They will be interested where you got it. Be truthful. Anything anyone does to the firearm is only making it worse. (read committing another felony)

    The only time a gunsmith can repair the serial number is if it get messed up during the course of work like rebluing where it gets worn off. He can then remark right over it the original number.

    From the Oregon Revised Statutes.

    166.450¹

    Obliteration or change of identification number on firearms

    Any person who intentionally alters, removes or obliterates the identification number of any firearm for an unlawful purpose, shall be punished upon conviction by imprisonment in the custody of the Department of Corrections for not more than five years. Possession of any such firearm is presumptive evidence that the possessor has altered, removed or obliterated the identification number.


    And under US Code - Section 922: Unlawful acts:

    (k) It shall be unlawful for any person knowingly to transport, ship, or receive, in interstate or foreign commerce, any firearm which has had the importer’s or manufacturer’s serial number removed, obliterated, or altered or to possess or receive any firearm which has had the importer’s or manufacturer’s serial number removed, obliterated, or altered and has, at any time, been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.
     
  10. Anton

    Anton milwaukie Member

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    They did take it but have it back cause they were able to make out the serial number
     
  11. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I once read an article with pictures describing how the FBI can x-ray a firearm that's had the serial numbers filed off and still read the original serial #'s.
    When the metal is stamped it makes a ghost mark into the metal below the stampings.
     
  12. Straight Shooter

    Straight Shooter North Bend OR Active Member

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    Those are not just random scratches or a bad day. That shotgun is clearly been tampered with. I would have never bought that thing. I bet it was a good deal. Whether it happens to you or down the line it will be confiscated. I'm betting 100 out of 100 ATF or FBI agents will believe it is obliterated. The only way to know for sure is see if the ATF will do a transfer search starting at Remington based on what you think it says. If they can establish history coming to your area you might be granted a release to repair the serial number. If it doesn't exist then that is still one hot potato.
     
  13. Anton

    Anton milwaukie Member

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    Wat should i do with it then?
     
  14. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    Post it on a public forum :confused:
     
  15. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I would re stamp it directly below the existing ones and leave the original numbers they way they are
     
  16. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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  17. Straight Shooter

    Straight Shooter North Bend OR Active Member

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    Restamp it to what? The old numbers cannot be positively identified. I would take it to an ATF or FBI office and get some advice in writing. A new receiver is hardly the cure. How would you feel if that was your great grandpa's medal of honor gift from Remington and someone was trying to help prevent it's recovery? We don't know who's it was. It may have been something very special to someone.

    Usually firearm owners are some of the most honest law abiding people you will ever know. This thread has me seriously reconsidering this belief.
     
  18. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    NOT STOLEN
     
  19. Anton

    Anton milwaukie Member

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    I'm so confused lol