I took these pics to show another forum member (on another forum) what I was talking about in another thread when I said I had a box of ammo that was giving me the same problems he was describing. I bought this box of ammo awhile back and when I tried shooting it my gun jammed every round. It would even seize up completely some times. I had the same problem in two different guns with the entire box of ammo. After measuring them against a few other boxes of ammo (two hollow points rounds and another FMJ) I found they were a little bit longer. I would never guess such a small difference could cause such problems...but it did. I think this is something that happens to most shooters sooner or later. Has anyone else had this happen?