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OSP STATS PROVE BACKGROUND CHECK TRAIN WRECK

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Chee-to, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    From: Oregon Firearms Federation <off@oregonfirearms.org> [Add to Address Book]
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    Subject: OSP STATS PROVE BACKGROUND CHECK TRAIN WRECK
    Date: Sep 30, 2014 1:36 PM

    In a stunning admission that their current background check/ gun buyer harassment scheme is a failure, the Oregon State Police have released statistics proving what we've said all along.

    As you know, Governor Kitzahaber has required that every time a firearm's purchase is denied, at least one State Police officer must leave patrol to "investigate." While the OSP's directive says the investigating officer must be told the reason for the denial, they virtually never are.

    Now the OSP has provided details that demonstrate what a staggering waste of time this policy is.

    According to an Executive Summary " on the investigations the Oregon State Police (OSP) is conducting regarding denied firearm transactions through the Firearm Instant Check System (FICS) Unit " of the 331 "denial" investigations only 8 people have been arrested.

    That's a total of only 2.41% of the people denied! And of course, there is no way of knowing how many of the people taken into custody were arrested for actual offenses and how many were victims of the same sloppy record keeping that kept most of the other 97% from completing transfers.


    Of the 12 people reported to have been denied because of "mental health" we know of at least one who was denied for false reasons.

    Another buyer who was issued a "citation in lieu of custody" was told he had to appear in court and when he inquired about his court date was told everything had been dropped!

    Even more surprising was the reported statistic that of the 40 people who were denied because they were "wanted"only 4 were actually arrested! ( The State Police describe a person who is "wanted" as having an active felony or misdemeanor warrant.)
    90% of the people who were denied because they were "wanted" walked out of the gun store.

    4 people who were denied because they were "wanted" are listed in the category of "Investigation Complete-No Action." The State Police list this as:
    "Trooper finished investigation and determined extraneous circumstances did not warrant an arrest,citation or any other action."


    Of the 331 denials 40 were because the OSP said that the gun they were trying to buy was stolen. That hardly makes the buyer a dangerous person.

    The anti-gun crowd is eager to report the number of firearms purchase denials as evidence that the failed background check system is a great success. But three factors make this claim absurd.


    First, as is clearly demonstrated by the numbers provided by the OSP, the vast majority of people who are denied have not been proven to have done anything wrong.


    Second, assuming that the OSP's numbers are accurate, (which we can't) only a tiny fraction of the people who are denied are arrested, meaning that if they truly
    are dangerous and should not have firearms, they are still free to walk the streets. So pretending that a denial has any effect on crime is, on it's face, ridiculous.

    Third, in virtually every case of a mass shooting, a mandatory background check would have had no effect. The shooters either PASSED the check or would never have been subject to one because, for example, they stole the guns used.

    Keep in mind that we have faced an ongoing effort to expand this failed system to transfers made between friends and family members.

    In the last few weeks the Firearms Instant Check System has had massive delays with dealers facing waiting times for what transfers do take place at 350% or more over normal waits. In some cases the FICS system is simply not working at all.

    Washington voters are now facing a ballot measure that will expand this failed system to private transfers. Nevada is following their lead. We will almost certainly face a similar measure here. Make no mistake, background checks are gun registration schemes .

    Efforts to expand them are being funded by billionaires with armed guards.The battle is coming.



    Get ready.
     
  2. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    In a stunning admission that their current background check/ gun buyer harassment scheme is a failure, the Oregon State Police have released statistics proving what we've said all along.

    As you know, Governor Kitzahaber has required that every time a firearm's purchase is denied, at least one State Police officer must leave patrol to "investigate." While the OSP's directive says the investigating officer must be told the reason for the denial, they virtually never are.

    Now the OSP has provided details that demonstrate what a staggering waste of time this policy is.

    According to an Executive Summary "on the investigations the Oregon State Police (OSP) is conducting regarding denied firearm transactions through the Firearm Instant Check System (FICS) Unit" of the 331 "denial" investigations only 8 people have been arrested.

    That's a total of only 2.41% of the people denied! And of course, there is no way of knowing how many of the people taken into custody were arrested for actual offenses and how many were victims of the same sloppy record keeping that kept most of the other 97% from completing transfers.
    Of the 12 people reported to have been denied because of "mental health" we know of at least one who was denied for false reasons.

    Another buyer who was issued a "citation in lieu of custody" was told he had to appear in court and when he inquired about his court date was told everything had been dropped!

    Even more surprising was the reported statistic that of the 40 people who were denied because they were "wanted"only 4 were actually arrested! (The State Police describe a person who is "wanted" as having an active felony or misdemeanor warrant.)

    90% of the people who were denied because they were "wanted" walked out of the gun store.

    4 people who were denied because they were "wanted" are listed in the category of "Investigation Complete-No Action." The State Police list this as:
    "Trooper finished investigation and determined extraneous circumstances did not warrant an arrest,citation or any other action."

    Of the 331 denials 40 were because the OSP said that the gun they were trying to buy was stolen. That hardly makes the buyer a dangerous person.

    The anti-gun crowd is eager to report the number of firearms purchase denials as evidence that the failed background check system is a great success. But three factors make this claim absurd.
    First, as is clearly demonstrated by the numbers provided by the OSP, the vast majority of people who are denied have not been proven to have done anything wrong.

    Second, assuming that the OSP's numbers are accurate, (which we can't) only a tiny fraction of the people who are denied are arrested, meaning that if they truly
    are dangerous and should not have firearms, they are still free to walk the streets. So pretending that a denial has any effect on crime is, on it's face, ridiculous.

    Third, in virtually every case of a mass shooting, a mandatory background check would have had no effect. The shooters either PASSED the check or would never have been subject to one because, for example, they stole the guns used.

    Keep in mind that we have faced an ongoing effort to expand this failed system to transfers made between friends and family members.

    In the last few weeks the Firearms Instant Check System has had massive delays with dealers facing waiting times for what transfers do take place at 350% or more over normal waits. In some cases the FICS system is simply not working at all.

    Washington voters are now facing a ballot measure that will expand this failed system to private transfers. Nevada is following their lead. We will almost certainly face a similar measure here. Make no mistake, background checks are gun registration schemes.

    Efforts to expand them are being funded by billionaires with armed guards.The battle is coming.
    Get ready.
     
  3. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    The system has been broken for LONG TIME and it is used to HARASS good folks and not stop real criminals.
    The OSP not digs back 30 or 40 years to see if maybe you spit a piece of gum out on the sidewalk or even more petty things to work their stalls.
     
  4. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I was particularly impressed how OFF used this to take a deserved shot at I-594 in Washington


    Oregon Firearms Federation shows background check failure


    The Oregon Firearms Federation yesterday released a report alleging that the Beaver State’s background check “gun buyer harassment scheme” has failed, and warned that neighboring Washington’s Initiative 594 ballot measure would “expand this failed system to private transfers” north of the Columbia River.


    http://www.examiner.com/article/oregon-firearms-federation-shows-background-check-failure
     
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