Oregon Osp and expungement rule

[fmvolume86]

None of this would be a problem if the Federal Govt held these states accountable for violating the Constitution

 

[winners58]

The Department of Justice is proposing a rule to allow for federal RESTORATION of gun rights for the first time in 32 years!
Change to FBI federal denials up for consideration
Make comments here

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[pharow]

The Department of Justice is proposing a rule to allow for federal RESTORATION of gun rights for the first time in 32 years!
Change to FBI federal denials up for consideration
Make comments here

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Whats that mean for us expunged folks?

 

[MrJoshuaYoder]

Whats that mean for us expunged folks?

This allows for the same thing as Oregon 166.274, restoration of firearm rights / relief from prohibition, but on a federal level. This could be resulting from an un expungable state charge/conviction, or federal convictions.

Oregon is denying us saying we are still Federally Disqualified, which is factually false. If we happened to get a Federal Restoration approved and ordered before the state lawsuit is wrapped up, it would be hilarious to watch them squirm to handle that one. It would take the legs out from their entire idea. OSP wouldn't be able to say we're Federally Disqualified at all.

 

[MrJoshuaYoder]

There is a LOT of pending legislation in Oregon right now, so much in fact I've created a new thread just to discuss that, and to get us a bit more organized.
Some is good, but most of it is terrible.

Oregon - Pending State Legislation - Get Involved - Get Loud!

Oregon currently has several Anti-Gun items pending in the current legislative session. They are all absolutely terrible. The Anti-Gun community is extremely well organized, groups like "Moms Demand Action" are involved giving testimony after testimony in support of Anti-Gun legislation! I'm...

www.northwestfirearms.com

I'm really excited for HB3836, I had reached out to Yunkers office about this idea last year because of the OSP denials. They've actually submitted a bill with some support to get OSP FICS out of the process and have FFL's go straight to FBI NICS.

 

[JoshFromSalem]

Great News

 

[MrJoshuaYoder]

My thread with a list of pending legislation got merged. The new location is: https://www.northwestfirearms.com/t...ive-assembly-firearm-proposals-a-list.507646/

I just posted a list of hearings in a call to action. We need to get loud and contact state reps. They cannot allow the bad infringements to pass. They must deny quorum.

There are 3 gut and stuff items pending, SB243, HB3074, and HB2606 that relate to "Oregon state police studying the efficiency of background checks" that could be used to screw us harder, and possibly codify the infringement they have been doing. However, HB3836 can fix that IF it ever get's traction.

Please contact your reps and rally support! This is exactly what I requested Yunkers office to bring to the table, and they did it.
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HB3836 Removes the Department of State Police as the designated state point of contact for purposes of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.
This is because of OSP blocking people with set-asides from purchase after their rights are restored. OSP cannot be trusted. This should be passed instead of SB243, HB3074, and HB2606

 

[jghaws]

Welcome to the party! Just had a court hearing yesterday, my attorney has 5 cases, another guy is representing himself, and another attorney's case are all getting consolidated. A couple weeks ago Oregon Court of Appeals held that Oregon Set-asides do in fact restore firearms rights. My attorney brought up the fact there is a recent ruling yesterday, we should have Motion for Summary Judgement in by end of next month. I'm guessing we should have a ruling on that by May, if the judge doesn't grant Summary Judgement, then we will move into Oral Arguments. Honestly I think we will probably get MSJ granted and be done soon.

I'd suggest just sit tight and stay tuned. We should have this resolved soon. In the meantime if you're married and your other half bought that firearm and gifted it to you, that would be legal. Or if some other family member were to gift it to you, that's also legal. Hell you could even drive to Idaho and purchase a rifle or shotgun.

After my denial I purchased 2 suppressors. My FBI background is clear. Idaho does a FBI NICS check and does NOT check with OSP. OSP is playing games and they are going to lose. Once this is done I'm looking at filing a section 1983 suit in federal court to make them pay damages to everyone they've denied. They will be held accountable for this infringement!

OSP based their policy on a deeply flawed FBI opinion letter, I have it on my Linktree, link is in my profile and signature. I also have a congressional inquiry going into that letter, and Cliff Bentz finally got back to me a couple days ago. It sounds like the FBI is digging into who wrote it and why. I have a feeling some stuff may come out there too and that worthless letter will probably get recanted.

i have all the firearms i need and if i want more i know legal ways of buying them it just pisses me off that they think they can tell me no. when im legally aloud to buy them . the attorney texted me yesterday and they do want me as a plaintiff he is one of 5 or 6 attorneys going after them . i wonder if its part of the same group of attorneys . that your with ? his comment was he was waiting on the other attorneys to approve the representation agreement and that should be any day now ( what ever that means ) ...

 

[MrJoshuaYoder]

i have all the firearms i need and if i want more i know legal ways of buying them it just pisses me off that they think they can tell me no. when im legally aloud to buy them . the attorney texted me yesterday and they do want me as a plaintiff he is one of 5 or 6 attorneys going after them . i wonder if its part of the same group of attorneys . that your with ? his comment was he was waiting on the other attorneys to approve the representation agreement and that should be any day now ( what ever that means ) ...

I'm working with David Wallace. We have 5 consolidated cases that he has, and Art Foust going Pro Se that's consolidated, and Shawn Kollie has another case that will likely be consolidated.

The Oregon Court of Appeals answered the question, that we knew the answer to, "does an Oregon Set-Aside restore Firearms Rights" in another case on Feb 20. We are now citing to that in a Motion for Summary Judgement that should be going through this next month.

All of the attorneys that I'm aware of that have any interest in this issue can be found on my LinkTree, link is in my signature.
I'm assuming you've talked to one of them, or someone new has entered the fight.

Either way, you could enter the fight as a plaintiff if you want, but the case may be resolved by our Motion for Summary Judgement which should be covering everyone once it's granted. We are very close to the finish line. Judge Geyer seems to be friendly to 2A, he has ruled positively in several cases now. As soon as we file the Motion for Summary Judgement, I'll post it on my LinkTree as well. Even if he denies the Summary Judgement, we would then be in Oral Arguements by May/June.

The finish line is close.

Once this case is resolved, I plan on filing a Federal Section 1983 claim against OSP/Oregon for Deprivation of Rights under Color of Law, again seeking compensation for everyone denied under this bogus policy.

 

[JoshFromSalem]

I'm working with David Wallace. We have 5 consolidated cases that he has, and Art Foust going Pro Se that's consolidated, and Shawn Kollie has another case that will likely be consolidated.

The Oregon Court of Appeals answered the question, that we knew the answer to, "does an Oregon Set-Aside restore Firearms Rights" in another case on Feb 20. We are now citing to that in a Motion for Summary Judgement that should be going through this next month.

All of the attorneys that I'm aware of that have any interest in this issue can be found on my LinkTree, link is in my signature.
I'm assuming you've talked to one of them, or someone new has entered the fight.

Either way, you could enter the fight as a plaintiff if you want, but the case may be resolved by our Motion for Summary Judgement which should be covering everyone once it's granted. We are very close to the finish line. Judge Geyer seems to be friendly to 2A, he has ruled positively in several cases now. As soon as we file the Motion for Summary Judgement, I'll post it on my LinkTree as well. Even if he denies the Summary Judgement, we would then be in Oral Arguements by May/June.

The finish line is close.

Once this case is resolved, I plan on filing a Federal Section 1983 claim against OSP/Oregon for Deprivation of Rights under Color of Law, again seeking compensation for everyone denied under this bogus policy.

Thanks Josh.....
I appreciate you keeping us all updated
The other Josh

 

[jghaws]

I'm working with David Wallace. We have 5 consolidated cases that he has, and Art Foust going Pro Se that's consolidated, and Shawn Kollie has another case that will likely be consolidated.

The Oregon Court of Appeals answered the question, that we knew the answer to, "does an Oregon Set-Aside restore Firearms Rights" in another case on Feb 20. We are now citing to that in a Motion for Summary Judgement that should be going through this next month.

All of the attorneys that I'm aware of that have any interest in this issue can be found on my LinkTree, link is in my signature.
I'm assuming you've talked to one of them, or someone new has entered the fight.

Either way, you could enter the fight as a plaintiff if you want, but the case may be resolved by our Motion for Summary Judgement which should be covering everyone once it's granted. We are very close to the finish line. Judge Geyer seems to be friendly to 2A, he has ruled positively in several cases now. As soon as we file the Motion for Summary Judgement, I'll post it on my LinkTree as well. Even if he denies the Summary Judgement, we would then be in Oral Arguements by May/June.

The finish line is close.

Once this case is resolved, I plan on filing a Federal Section 1983 claim against OSP/Oregon for Deprivation of Rights under Color of Law, again seeking compensation for everyone denied under this bogus policy.

the attorney i have spoken with is Ross Day out of salem the guy over at Oregon Firearms Federation gave me the number for Shawn kollie at oregon gun law and the secritary was the one who had me call Ross Day . i could be mixed up i was ran around alot that day. so i called and he said they were looking for plaintiffs. and after i spoke with him he asked me to write up a short summery of what happened since i work at a couple of gun stores i had access to recourds proving i have bought plenty of firearms through OSP and showed copys of gun permits going back 20 years . and waited for a call and i just herd from him yesterday it sounds like you guys are alot farther along . i was under the impresion he was part of the initial class action lawsuit but mabee im wrong . i tried that link tree thingy but im not real tech savy i tried facebook and tried messanger but like i said not tech savy lol.

 

[fmvolume86]

This needs a huge Supreme Court slap in the face. I still can't believe these matters aren't addressed by the Supreme Court DIRECTLY. No court back and forths and all this bullbubblegum. These are civil rights plain as day. States continue to violate them, Supreme Court does nothing, people bend over to each one with zero resistance.

 

[MrJoshuaYoder]

the attorney i have spoken with is Ross Day out of salem the guy over at Oregon Firearms Federation gave me the number for Shawn kollie at oregon gun law and the secritary was the one who had me call Ross Day . i could be mixed up i was ran around alot that day. so i called and he said they were looking for plaintiffs. and after i spoke with him he asked me to write up a short summery of what happened since i work at a couple of gun stores i had access to recourds proving i have bought plenty of firearms through OSP and showed copys of gun permits going back 20 years . and waited for a call and i just herd from him yesterday it sounds like you guys are alot farther along . i was under the impresion he was part of the initial class action lawsuit but mabee im wrong . i tried that link tree thingy but im not real tech savy i tried facebook and tried messanger but like i said not tech savy lol.

Shawn Kollie is definitely one of the first attorneys I'm aware of working on the issue. I had reached out to him but since he didn't handle my set-asides he suggested I contact the attorney that did. That attorney, Jesse Lohrke out of Springfield wasn't handling those cases and pointed me to David Wallace as David has already beaten OSP in other matters. Ross Day is on my list of attorneys that I know of that's involved. I'm not following any of their cases specifically.

All of those attorneys are great. If you want to throw your hat in the ring and jump in too, that's awesome. However, I'm not sure what everyone is charging for representation. I know I put up $5k, and we are asking for OSP to reimburse that at the end. That said, it took almost 2 years for OSP to actually pay up in the different matter that my attorney already won, because they have the right to appeal and all that stuff. However, with this case that might be a little different since we already have a Court of Appeals ruling that is related to Oregon Firearms Rights Restorations. It's a wild circus.

 

[MrJoshuaYoder]

This needs a huge Supreme Court slap in the face. I still can't believe these matters aren't addressed by the Supreme Court DIRECTLY. No court back and forths and all this bullbubblegum. These are civil rights plain as day. States continue to violate them, Supreme Court does nothing, people bend over to each one with zero resistance.

Absolutely. I think Congress needs to step in and put some legislation in place to nullify all state gun laws too. As much as I dislike government oversight, I would welcome that. No state should be allowed to be more restrictive than federal. Something about federal supremacy.

 

[fmvolume86]

Absolutely. I think Congress needs to step in and put some legislation in place to nullify all state gun laws too. As much as I dislike government oversight, I would welcome that. No state should be allowed to be more restrictive than federal. Something about federal supremacy.

But that's literally the govt job when it comes to Federal law and upholding the constitution. That's their oversight responsibility. We can agree on oversight not on their scope and deals under 10th Ammendment, but the second Ammendment is literally what thy Federal Govt is supposed to punish states. Imagine if Trump withheld federal funds to all states with unconstitutional laws or the Supreme Court finally sent US marshals to these judges and DAs....... In the end, the people will stop so NOTHING because cowards who can't even just not comply

 

[MrJoshuaYoder]

But that's literally the govt job when it comes to Federal law and upholding the constitution. That's their oversight responsibility. We can agree on oversight not on their scope and deals under 10th Ammendment, but the second Ammendment is literally what thy Federal Govt is supposed to punish states. Imagine if Trump withheld federal funds to all states with unconstitutional laws or the Supreme Court finally sent US marshals to these judges and DAs....... In the end, the people will stop so NOTHING because cowards who can't even just not comply

You're not wrong. States keep thumbing their nose, and I understand the 2A is absolute and what it means. They keep trying to dilute it.

However, I just found out that this is happening right now, notice was issued yesterday. US DOJ is coming for all state infringements.
Their day of reckoning is coming.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1905422189039407462

View: https://x.com/GunOwners/status/1905422189039407462


It's time to get loud folks! Submit a violation report with their online form. (Violations must be submitted in writing)

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I hope Oregon and Washington start turning it around once they see the California infringements they model after come under attack and start crumbling. I doubt that will be the case. However, the louder we get about the infringements we are being subjected to.

I'm also going to submit second testimony against SB243 with this letter. To remind them of what's coming.

 

[fmvolume86]

You're not wrong. States keep thumbing their nose, and I understand the 2A is absolute and what it means. They keep trying to dilute it.

However, I just found out that this is happening right now, notice was issued yesterday. US DOJ is coming for all state infringements.
Their day of reckoning is coming.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1905422189039407462

View: https://x.com/GunOwners/status/1905422189039407462


It's time to get loud folks! Submit a violation report with their online form, or call them.

Contact Us

www.justice.gov

I hope Oregon and Washington start turning it around once they see the California infringements they model after come under attack and start crumbling. I doubt that will be the case. However, the louder we get about the infringements we are being subjected to.

I'm also going to submit second testimony against SB243 with this letter. To remind them of what's coming.

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Regular citizens who are neither anti gun or pro gun Are the easiest to fear monger to. They are the easiest to pass bullbubblegum bills hidden under laws that already exist. How can anyone say no to "background checks" right??? but then stuffed with infringments they dont understand..... on top of that they don't understand that their tax dollars are being wasted to fight in court in order to infringe on their own rights by their own tax dollars. SHEEP !!!!

 

[JoshFromSalem]

They are marginalizing who they think they can get away with first.. the people who cant afford an attorney and the people they believe it will be easiest to turn the public against.

 

[oa98pistol512]

A very good friend of mine had his record expenged and bought a gun 3/26/25 with no issues. Sounds like OSP are picking and choosing on who to deny

 

[fmvolume86]

A very good friend of mine had his record expenged and bought a gun 3/26/25 with no issues. Sounds like OSP are picking and choosing on who to deny

You also have Washington county denying someone a CHL, Washington county judge ruled in favor of granting the CHL as record was reduced and dismissed in California, yet Washington county appealed it to Appeals Court and ruled in favor of denying CHL even though individual has a clean record. This is insane that a felony reduction and dismissal in another state is still treated ad a denial in Oregon ??? that makes no sense. They are making up their own rules as they go.