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Oregonian Article on Ammo

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by timbernet, Jun 3, 2009.

  1. timbernet

    timbernet Boring, Oregon Member

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    Actually not a bad article coming from the Oregonian...

    The article comments on the other hand... wow... :(:(

    I can't tell if this guy is serious or not:

  2. Misternt

    Misternt Salem Area Active Member

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    People start buying out shelves of ammo and then the next person comes in to buy ammo and it's empty. Next time they see ammo they buy it all out. Repeat.

    I've heard people seriously say that Obama was going to ban all guns but when asked for evidence they have nothing.
  3. kenr74

    kenr74 Oregon Active Member

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    I can't believe I live in the same country let alone the same state as some of those commentors. I must not get out enough.
  4. aquariumjunky

    aquariumjunky Albany, Oregon Active Member

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    they make me fel smat evn with my fift grade learnin
  5. buyamonkey

    buyamonkey West vancouver WA Member

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    Seems to me the article is a little late... I think every other news outlet on Earth has already ran it. A couple of months ago would have been a little more timely. I don't know when they took that picture at Fisherman's marine, but when I was there last week they had 2 cases of 9mm, some .357, and a little bit of some of the others while the article seemed to imply that there was no 9mm anywhere. People are recently getting primers and powder certainly the drought isn't over, but production and availability certainly seems to be improving.

    Now the .22 shortage I really don't understand, are the sage rats, marmots, rock chucks and squirrels planning an invasion? Those sneaky little buggers, I wouldn't put it past them.

  6. timbernet

    timbernet Boring, Oregon Member

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    I think the .22 shortage is from the ammo companies putting most of their resources towards the larger calibers and military calibers... now that production is catching up on those, they might start producing more .22...

    Now that would be a fun movie --- varmints invading :) Might be better than 90% of what Hollywood produces ;)
  7. MarkSBG

    MarkSBG Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Haha! Ewe think you bee smart, butt knot! You're spelling be bad, butt mine spelling is more good than you're spelling! I cheat and be using spell check on all I right. That whey I not look dumb.
  8. fingolfen

    fingolfen Oregon Member

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  9. Flakman5000

    Flakman5000 Oregon New Member

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    disgusting. He calls people racists one of the worst words in our language and yet has no proof. Should I then call all people who do not own a gun liberal morons? No! I shouldn't. In fact I buy lots of ammo have many guns and I'm fairly liberal. I'm even an atheist (please no debates on that), I am far from racist, but I do hold my constitutional rights at a high standard. Lets make one thing clear. The Democrats have a history of censorship (via Tipper Gore VS Frank Zappa), they have a history of strict gun laws (I'm sure you know), and it is not racist to hedge a bet and make a point to these guys not to change the constitution, because the minute you start making changes whats next? Everything is on the table at that point. Concerned citizens exercising their right to arms or racists? I ask you.
  10. IrishFitz

    IrishFitz Happy Valley, OR Member

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    Is that guy for real? 'I Trust Obama'....

  11. xstayfrostyx

    xstayfrostyx PDX Member

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    I sincerely hope this is intended as sarcasm... here's a report from waaay back on March 13th:

    Obama’s Gun Ban List Is Out

    Alan Korwin
    March 13, 2009

    Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.

    Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

    Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

    Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
    M1 Carbine,
    Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
    Bushmaster XM15,
    Armalite M15,
    Thompson 1927,
    Thompson M1;
    NHM 90,
    NHM 91,
    SA 85,
    SA 93,
    Olympic Arms PCR;
    Calico Liberty ,
    Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
    Fabrique National FN/FAL,
    FN/LAR, or FNC,
    Thompson 1927 Commando,
    Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
    SKS with detachable magazine,
    SLG 95,
    SLR 95 or 96,
    Steyr AU,
    Galil and Uzi Sporter,
    Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
    Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
    Calico M-110,
    MAC-11, or MPA3,
    Olympic Arms OA,
    TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
    Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
    Armscor 30 BG,
    SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
    Striker 12,
    Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
    A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
    (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see
    (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
    Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
    10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
    A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a
    detachable magazine, and has:
    (i) a second pistol grip,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a barrel shroud or
    (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
    (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
    A semiautomatic shotgun with:
    (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
    (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity
    of more than 5 rounds, and
    (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

    Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
    Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.”
  12. Flakman5000

    Flakman5000 Oregon New Member

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    Now I feel sick.
  13. terrylf72

    terrylf72 Portland, Oregon, United States Member

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    Ok, seems that guy needs to crawl back under the rock in which he came from!
  14. markw76

    markw76 Portland/Moscow on the Willamette Member

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    That's not Obama's list. That's pretty much the same old list that the Brady Bunch keeps pushing. They may change it a little, here and there, but they aren't known for their creativity or perception.

    Evil Assault Guns? In my possession? Prove it. :mad::noway::club::dunno::argue::swordfight:
  15. toys

    toys PDX Member

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    you think they missed the boat?
  16. g19

    g19 OR Member

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    sure am glad I had that boating accident and lost the ones that are on that list.
  17. Flakman5000

    Flakman5000 Oregon New Member

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    Not to turn the discussion around. Just a statement. Whatever happened to individual rights? you know the constitution. Not that I want to get into a debate here, but my purchase of a gun should be between me, my friends I shoot with, and the dealer. That's it. I say that, however, for anyone's personal choice whether it be drug use or sex. It is your choice, and as long as you don't go driving under the influence or harming someone else, you by all standards of the constitution have the right to be left alone.
  18. chris61182

    chris61182 A little west of Portland Active Member

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  19. tionico

    tionico Thurston County Well-Known Member

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    Well, it seems there will always be some folk determined to determine what someone else shall/shan't do. But the original framers of our founding document seemed to realise this could be dangerous, and so set limits on what aspects of our corporate and individual rights, as given by our Creator (and thus unable to be denied us), the government might dictate to us, corporately and individually.

    It was on this basis they determined the RIGHT (as already given, and rightfully ours) of THE PEOPLE (referring to individual residents of this land, not even restricting the category to "citizens") to possess and use lethal force, specifically "arms" (which include things that go bang, the things that fly out of them, things that cut, things that stab or otherwise poke holes in) shall NOT be infringed, or limited/restricted in any way.

    Seems to me we've already got some pretty serious restrictions written into law, and pretty well universally accepted by the population. Early small steps, say some. More, and longer steps sure to follow, say others.

    Personally, I believe the right already ours is sufficiently important as to require present action before the early steps to restriction lead to further, and more significant ones.

    Oh, so you think I've got a weapon? Which one? What kind? What caliber? Where is it? On what basis? Oh, that one? Why, I sold it in a face to face sale last year...... kept the paper for a while, but nothing ever came of it, and so I tossed it into the woodstove...... can't recall the new owner's name........ oh, wait, its coming back to me.... his name was John. Yes, it was.... John Smith, I believe, yes that's it....... can't remember his address, though.
  20. Spray-n-pray

    Spray-n-pray Battle Ground Moderator Staff Member

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    You know, I think I may have sold one or two to that gentleman myself. Probably not the only one here to do that too. That guy must have quite the collection. ;)