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Which Senate and House districts in Oregon that are currently Democrat are vulnerable?
Both the House and Senate are currently Democrat. There must be candidates out there
that actually have a chance to swing a district to the other side of the aisle.

Time to put my money where my mouth is--but would prefer to put it in places that have a
real chance. Who?
 
Here is a short guide on how to vote in general:
1. Never, ever vote for a Democrat
2. Never vote for incumbent.
3. Never vote for any tax increase or for any new taxes
4. If confused, see #1

And remember: names of the candidates and campaign speeches are irrelevant
 
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Which Senate and House districts in Oregon that are currently Democrat are vulnerable?
Both the House and Senate are currently Democrat. There must be candidates out there
that actually have a chance to swing a district to the other side of the aisle.

Time to put my money where my mouth is--but would prefer to put it in places that have a
real chance. Who?

For the Oregon House of Reps, scroll down in this link to "competitiveness" and to "pivot counties". Click on the district number to get details for that district:
Oregon House of Representatives elections, 2018 - Ballotpedia

Here is the link to the Oregon Senate info - if you click on the district number in the list it opens up info on that district - scroll down and look 'em over:
Oregon State Senate elections, 2018 - Ballotpedia

For example, here is info on Senate district 15. It appears that in the 2014 race the R would have won except an L got 9% of the vote. If that candidate was fairly conservative, then she is the reason the R lost by 0.7% to the D!
Oregon State Senate District 15 - Ballotpedia

Third party candidates can help or hurt you. Pray for some good liberal 3rd party candidates competing for governor.
 
Here is a short guide on how to vote in general:
1. Never, ever vote for a Democrat
2. Never vote for incumbent.
3. Never vote for any tax increase or for any new taxes
4. If confused, see #1

And remember: names of the candidates and campaign speeches are irrelevant

I would say it's not quite so clear-cut. First of all, there are Republicans out there that have thrown us under the bus in Oregon - Knute Buehler is a perfect example. Just because they're an R, doesn't mean they're pro-gun. And while yes, many Dems are anti-gun, not all are - Betsy Johnson is a perfect example - she's been a consistent pro-gun Democrat in Oregon and would be a far better choice than an anti-gun Republican.

It's safer to way each candidate based on their actual views, preferably based on past experience and votes, rather than just automatically choosing based on party. We need pro-gun people, regardless of the party. Tossing out people like Betsy Johnson because she happens to be a Democrat could actually hurt us.
 
I would say it's not quite so clear-cut. First of all, there are Republicans out there that have thrown us under the bus in Oregon - Knute Buehler is a perfect example. Just because they're an R, doesn't mean they're pro-gun. And while yes, many Dems are anti-gun, not all are - Betsy Johnson is a perfect example - she's been a consistent pro-gun Democrat in Oregon and would be a far better choice than an anti-gun Republican.

It's safer to way each candidate based on their actual views, preferably based on past experience and votes, rather than just automatically choosing based on party. We need pro-gun people, regardless of the party. Tossing out people like Betsy Johnson because she happens to be a Democrat could actually hurt us.

Any democrat that tells you they are pro-gun and yet is a member of a party that wants to take your guns has mental issues as far as I'm concerned. Buhler is a RINO and the only thing good I can say about him is that he doesn't try to hide who he is. Vote for Carpenter. I wish Wooldridge would bow out and support Sam.
 
Any democrat that tells you they are pro-gun and yet is a member of a party that wants to take your guns has mental issues as far as I'm concerned. Buhler is a RINO and the only thing good I can say about him is that he doesn't try to hide who he is. Vote for Carpenter. I wish Wooldridge would bow out and support Sam.

I'm not interested in what they say, but what they do. Betsy Johnson is the one example I gave - she has proven she is pro-gun by her pro-gun votes in Salem. Many folks know her as a strong supporter of our rights.

Like I said, measure the individual by their actions not by what they say.

I already support Carpenter and I hope he takes the primary. I don't want to see Buehler in office.
 
Any democrat that tells you they are pro-gun and yet is a member of a party that wants to take your guns has mental issues as far as I'm concerned. Buhler is a RINO and the only thing good I can say about him is that he doesn't try to hide who he is. Vote for Carpenter. I wish Wooldridge would bow out and support Sam.

Not so cut & dry, guns are not the only issue for voters.

Abortion rights
Healthcare
Entitlement programs / welfare
Taxes
Role of government

Party affiliation has little bearing anymore, and if you look at major gun control, especially the latest stuff, Republicans are just as bad. The current admin is scarier than Obama on that issue. Floriduuuh just enacted crap. Even libertarian Vermont fell. If you are a one issue voter, don't look at the party tag, look at the candidates actual stance. There are pro gun democrats, anti gun republicans, and both sides want power, money, and control. Republican and Democtat parties are both by in large terrible organizations. There are some good individuals within each party. For every Hillary, there's a McCain. The D's have the Browns, the R's have Scotts. Blindly voting one party ends poorly regardless of what they call themselves. Its why we have problems, its time to ditch parties and vote for the best candidates.
 
I am a one party voter and will always be that way. Any lawmaker that is a democrat in my book is a commie pure and simple. Please don't confuse me with the facts. My reasoning? The majority party determines committee assignments and what bills make it out of committee. A republican majority would have kept prozanski and others back out of the limelight. The governor appoints judges, etc. What we have for a governor will determine what we have in our courts and those judges are there for the duration. That being said, I don't have any respect for either party. They are major players in a dog and pony show with none of our concerns at heart. They are there and their main purpose is to stay there. There is an exception here and there on both sides of the aisle but very rare. If we don't get rid of the brown stain in Oregon's shorts and get a republican majority in at least one chamber we are screwed pure and simple. If the current initiative does not pass in November I have no doubt that a democrat majority in our state government will override the wishes of the voters and put it into effect on their own. We are at the crossroads and we don't have much of a way out.
 
Not so cut & dry, guns are not the only issue for voters.

Abortion rights
Healthcare
Entitlement programs / welfare
Taxes
Role of government

.

Here we go... Gun control is the best case study of what happened to American liberalism... These days liberal and left are two completely different things. What would you choose between government provided healthcare and your constitutional rights? Would you give up your 2A rights for any entitlement program? What other constitutional rights would you give up for some free stuff? How about 1st Amendment? Gotta be appealing for some folks - be quiet and get some government tit.
 
Here we go... Gun control is the best case study of what happened to American liberalism... These days liberal and left are two completely different things. What would you choose between government provided healthcare and your constitutional rights? Would you give up your 2A rights for any entitlement program? What other constitutional rights would you give up for some free stuff? How about 1st Amendment? Gotta be appealing for some folks - be quiet and get some government tit.

The issue we run into as voters, is that you are not locked into specific positions to call yourself a membet of a specific party. There is no vetting, no application process. Anyone can call themselves a republican or democrat. Plenty of big government republicans, plenty of em will sell out your rights - gun rights are a fraction of the constitution. Important, yes, but not the whole enchalada. Republicans gave us the Patriot Act, remember. They are just as evil as democrats. Republicans have majority in DC. We have zero pro gun bills moving. Plenty of antigun crap looming over us. Thanks to "republicans" - Knute is an "R" and he's already sold out your rights.

Guns are not important to half of American voters, and not the most important issue to the other half. Would you rather be broke, with no job, but have that bump stock, or would you rather have a job? Thats what some folks care more about. Others care more about healthcare, or social security. We - those of us here on forums like this - are NOT average voters. I'd like to think we are above average in that we care about issues and want to make educated decisions more. AVERAGE voters are what Rush calls low information voters.
 
This is really wrong logic. We were talking about entitlement programs, welfare, and other free stuff from government. This is what the left wants. Not about jobs.

Yep, remember 2% growth, high unemployment, Obama bragging about the 47 million folks on food stamps? He called it the "New Normal." Anyone that is still a democrat didn't seem to have a problem with this wrong thinking. I don't give a crap if they support the 2A or not.
 
I am a one party voter and will always be that way. Any lawmaker that is a democrat in my book is a commie pure and simple. Please don't confuse me with the facts. My reasoning? The majority party determines committee assignments and what bills make it out of committee. A republican majority would have kept prozanski and others back out of the limelight. The governor appoints judges, etc. What we have for a governor will determine what we have in our courts and those judges are there for the duration. That being said, I don't have any respect for either party. They are major players in a dog and pony show with none of our concerns at heart. They are there and their main purpose is to stay there. There is an exception here and there on both sides of the aisle but very rare. If we don't get rid of the brown stain in Oregon's shorts and get a republican majority in at least one chamber we are screwed pure and simple. If the current initiative does not pass in November I have no doubt that a democrat majority in our state government will override the wishes of the voters and put it into effect on their own. We are at the crossroads and we don't have much of a way out.


Exactly right. I see Oregon Firearms Federation gives Knute Buehler a grade of F. Brown gets an F-. :)
2018 Oregon Primary Candidate Ratings - Oregon Firearms Federation

I'm voting Carpenter in the primary. Carpenter gets a B+, the highest rating they give for a candidate who has not voted as a politician.

Bruce Cuff also gets a B+, and Wooldridge gets a B. I think either of the 3 would be good, but 2 of the 3 should drop out so one of them might beat Buehler. I emailed this idea to Carpenter and he said they will not do it. This is short-sighted and stupid - they're hurting our chances to beat Buehler and save our gun rights. These votes will determine if we are freemen or slaves.

Elections are a numbers game and at this point in history the stakes are higher than they've ever been - we're deciding whether we'll be like socialist Europe, or like free America. See the Alabama race - Jones (D) versus Moore (R). Some people refused to vote Moore because of the allegations about him, as if we are voting for Pope. I don't care if he's as slimy as Bill Clinton or Bernie Madoff - if he is strong on the 2A, I'm voting for him, I'm NOT staying home. If the 2A candidate is a convicted pedophile, and Brown is his opponent, and there's 3 feet of snow and ice on election day I'm getting out my snowshoes and crampons, walking the 4 miles to the ballot box, and I'm voting for the pedophile - I'm not voting for Pope - I'm voting for the 2A!!!
 
Exactly right. I see Oregon Firearms Federation gives Knute Buehler a grade of F. Brown gets an F-. :)
2018 Oregon Primary Candidate Ratings - Oregon Firearms Federation

I'm voting Carpenter in the primary. Carpenter gets a B+, the highest rating they give for a candidate who has not voted as a politician.

Bruce Cuff also gets a B+, and Wooldridge gets a B. I think either of the 3 would be good, but 2 of the 3 should drop out so one of them might beat Buehler. I emailed this idea to Carpenter and he said they will not do it. This is short-sighted and stupid - they're hurting our chances to beat Buehler and save our gun rights. These votes will determine if we are freemen or slaves.

Elections are a numbers game and at this point in history the stakes are higher than they've ever been - we're deciding whether we'll be like socialist Europe, or like free America. See the Alabama race - Jones (D) versus Moore (R). Some people refused to vote Moore because of the allegations about him, as if we are voting for Pope. I don't care if he's as slimy as Bill Clinton or Bernie Madoff - if he is strong on the 2A, I'm voting for him, I'm NOT staying home. If the 2A candidate is a convicted pedophile, and Brown is his opponent, and there's 3 feet of snow and ice on election day I'm getting out my snowshoes and crampons, walking the 4 miles to the ballot box, and I'm voting for the pedophile - I'm not voting for Pope - I'm voting for the 2A!!!

I posted on Wooldridge's FP page today and suggested he concede to Carpenter and ask his supporters to vote for him. Greg answered me personally, but didn't really say anything meaningful.
 
Hypothetical ballot in November:

For governor pick one:
a - Brown (D)
b - Buehler (R)
c - 3rd party best 2A candidate on earth

I'm voting for Buehler. A 3rd party has NO chance of winning. A vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Brown.
 
Hypothetical ballot in November:

For governor pick one:
a - Brown (D)
b - Buehler (R)
c - 3rd party best 2A candidate on earth

I'm voting for Buehler. A 3rd party has NO chance of winning. A vote for a 3rd party is a vote for Brown.

reply to me: :)

About that hypothetical ballot:
In the event the R partly leadership in Oregon realized that the best thing was to vote for the 3rd party, and if they put out a blitzkrieg media campaign at least a month before ballots were mailed telling all Rs to vote for the 3rd party candidate, then I'd vote for the 3rd party.
 

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