Oregon National Guard crushing used brass for scrap

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  1. PBinWA

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  2. Norm0931

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    Why should we contact or legislators? Our taxes fund the Oregon National Guard. If they are using the brass to have less of a foot print on the state budget I'm in favor of it. Not really seeing what the problem here is other than you don't like how they are getting rid of their brass. They are going with the most profitable disposal method. To me that's just smart business.
     
  3. 3MTA3

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    What we should contact our legislators about is why they are forced to sell their brass through a program that only returns a percentage of the auction amount. This in turn effectively forces them to sell the brass for scrap. They would be negligent to do otherwise given the situation.
     
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  4. oknow

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    shredded over reloadable is the most profitable:huh:
     
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  5. Norm0931

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    The actual metal is worth more than the amount gained by selling it to ammo manufacturers for reloading.
     
  6. Uberdillo

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    Isn't that precisely what's at stake though? They're arbitrarily confined such that the least economical option is the only one available to them. Release the goods to the free market and let them make OUR money back. I just bought a surplus issued backpack for $60 that the US Governemnt buys for $600. It can't be more than a year or two old. What sense does that make? I guess I payed for it, but so did you, and Sally, and Bill, but they didn't pay for me to have a nice backpack, they paid for our soldiers to have nice things, which it appears they're forced to give away for pennies on the dollar.

    Estimate 1000 .223/5.56 weighs ~13.6#. Brass value for fantastic clean, yellow brass $2.20/#, ~$30/1000
    Once fired 5.56 goes for what? 10 to 25 cents or more per case so....$100-$250/1000

    I admit I'm tired, how far afield am I?
     
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  7. ma96782

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    I believe.............

    The brass goes to the highest bidder. That bidder could be a ammo re-manufacturer or a person or a company just looking for brass (in whatever form).

    IMHO, the military shouldn't be spending time or resources to crush the cases.

    Just sell it, "as is/where is."

    Aloha, Mark
     
  8. Norm0931

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    They can't sell the brass as anything but spent ammo to an ammo manufacturer unless they crunch it.
     
  9. Flopsweat

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    Because they are breaking the law and not being held accountable. Human nature being what it is, sooner or later they will break more laws, assuming that they are not already.
     
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    What law are they breaking?
     
  11. Silver Fox

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    Three things....

    1. Where is this brass being scrapped at?

    2. Are you sure it isn't blank 5.56? Blank 5.56 is slightly smaller diameter than ball ammo

    3. Any proceeds from any sale go back to the states general fund and not the Military General Fund or 'coffers'

    SF-
     
  12. Flopsweat

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    You're right - it wasn't a law, it was a rescinded regulation.

     
  13. 1stklass

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    Norm, i'm not sure you know what you are talking about. All spent brass gets sold BY WEIGHT regardless of whether it is crunched or not. Crunched brass will bring slightly less than spot on the metals market, while every lot of reloadable brass i have seen sold by the military recently went for 2 to 4 times the spot price for brass
     

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