Oregon license holders privacy in peril

Joe Link · Dec 10, 2008

Original alert here --> https://www.oregonfirearms.org/

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]12.10.08 LICENSE HOLDER'S PRIVACY IN PERIL[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Oregon Firearms Federation supporters have received, or soon will receive, a Political Action Committee mailing from us urging them to take advantage of Oregon's PAC tax credit law to support gun rights at no cost to them. Many will also be receiving a letter asking for donations to the political action committee of a group called "Oregon Gun Owners."

"Oregon Gun Owners" is not affiliated in any way with OFF. "Oregon Gun Owners" is the organization that helped write <broken link removed> in 1999. This bill was intended to end private sales at gun shows and require that your firearms be kept locked up. When OFF killed that bill in the 1999 session, "Oregon Gun Owners" attempted to place a measure on the 2000 ballot to achieve similar ends, but failed to collect enough signatures. A similar measure authored by Ginny Burdick made the ballot and was passed into law as Ballot Measure 5.

We have received a copy of the mailing done by "Oregon Gun Owners." It was sent to a woman with a CHL whose name appears on no mailing lists for gun owners except the Clackamas County Sheriff's CHL list. It was mailed to a PO box that she uses for no other purpose except her CHL.

The Clackamas County Sheriff has notified license holders that he will reveal their names if asked.

A recent news story indicated that Portland law firm O'Donnell,Clark & Crew was requesting the names of license holders on behalf of an "unnamed group."

Apparently they were successful in getting the names of Clackamas County residents.We do not know what other counties may have made this information available. (An associate of O'Donnell and Clark represented OFF in a lawsuit several years ago.We do not support their current efforts.)

As you know, some sheriffs are attempting to safeguard the names of license holders in their counties and began their efforts after O'Donnell and Clark made the request for the names. We will leave it you to connect the dots.

Once again, gun rights supporters should know that "Oregon Gun Owners" has no connection to OFF in any way. OFF fully supports the efforts of sheriffs to protect the private information of CHL holders in the current climate and warns Clackamas County residents that their information is public knowledge and available to anyone who asks, for any purpose. [/FONT]

fingolfen · Dec 10, 2008

Yet another "confuse and split" fake group out there... great... We should sue some of the butts and let them have a taste of some real justice for once...

Morpheus · Dec 13, 2008

Has anyone actually been part of this group or know anything about them really?

I'm just puzzled by this type of group. Just doesn't seem right.

M

torpedoman · Dec 13, 2008

this is the type of group rosie odonald and nancy peloski woud join.

skud_dusty · Dec 18, 2008

Just sent an email to the Polk country sheriff to see what he thinks of all of this. I'll pass his response along once (if) I receive it.

watchman · Dec 31, 2008

I just renewed my Multnomah County CWP yesterday. The nice clerk at the sheriffs office handed me a new form to fill out that basically states the reasons why they should not have to give up the names or personal information of permit holders. They plan to compile these forms as part of their denial to outfits like Oregon Gun Owners or their lawyers requests that the information be made public. The Multnomah County Sheriffs Office has assured me that they will deny such requests. If you hold a Multnomah Co. CWP, I would strongly urge you to obtain said form from the sheriffs office and fill it out asap. They told me it was a brand new thing, so lets all help support their position!

ZeroRing · Dec 31, 2008

watchman said:
I just renewed my Multnomah County CWP yesterday. The nice clerk at the sheriffs office handed me a new form to fill out that basically states the reasons why they should not have to give up the names or personal information of permit holders. They plan to compile these forms as part of their denial to outfits like Oregon Gun Owners or their lawyers requests that the information be made public. The Multnomah County Sheriffs Office has assured me that they will deny such requests. If you hold a Multnomah Co. CWP, I would strongly urge you to obtain said form from the sheriffs office and fill it out asap. They told me it was a brand new thing, so lets all help support their position!

I'm not in Oregon but maybe you could ask them if they have the form online or if they have a PDF available for submittal via email?? If neither, maybe they would grant permission for you to make a PDF and post it here??

:s0159:

robctwo · Jan 1, 2009

I read about a new form used by the Benton County Sheriff and stopped by the other day. Simple reregistration with a privacy request based upon my use of the gun for personal protection. No charge.

ZeroRing · Jan 1, 2009

Reregistration? So then registration is required and this reregistration has a second component dealing with the privacy request?

Seems like the "privacy" part shouldn't have to be "requested". But I suppose it's at least good that you can specifically TELL them to keep your information private.

BUZO71 · Jan 1, 2009

ZeroRing said:
Reregistration? So then registration is required and this reregistration has a second component dealing with the privacy request?

Seems like the "privacy" part shouldn't have to be "requested". But I suppose it's at least good that you can specifically TELL them to keep your information private.

This may be one thing the sheriff got right actually. Remember, information is public under the state law. This is what the Sheriff is trying to help us, the citizens, out with. If you don't want you information given freely, re-register and simply check the box.

The sheriff doesn't have to do this. Much like other Sheriffs don't have to report to ICE when they arrest illegal aliens. I think police, like the rest of us, want to see the right thing done. I think the individual sheriffs realize this state leans far to the left and is out of whack. I'm glad to see someone taking the needed steps to try and protect us. Lets see if it works.

ZeroRing · Jan 1, 2009

BUZO71 said:
This may be one thing the sheriff got right actually. Remember, information is public under the state law. This is what the Sheriff is trying to help us, the citizens, out with. If you don't want you information given freely, re-register and simply check the box.

The sheriff doesn't have to do this. Much like other Sheriffs don't have to report to ICE when they arrest illegal aliens. I think police, like the rest of us, want to see the right thing done. I think the individual sheriffs realize this state leans far to the left and is out of whack. I'm glad to see someone taking the needed steps to try and protect us. Lets see if it works.

Amen to that! :s0155:

watchman · Jan 1, 2009

The new form at Mult. Co. Sherrifs office already has pre-listed several different reasons why we, the CWP holders, might want to exclude our info from the general public, along with boxes you can check to show you agree with these reasons. there is also an open section to add to those reasons. While there are many good reasons not to want this information made public, probably the best reason is that many people foolishly give their Social Security number on their CWP application. This is both unwise and unnecessary since it is optional . If your information is made available to the public, any scumbag out there will have everything he needs to steal your identity!

ZeroRing · Jan 1, 2009

watchman said:
The new form at Mult. Co. Sherrifs office already has pre-listed several different reasons why we, the CWP holders, might want to exclude our info from the general public, along with boxes you can check to show you agree with these reasons. there is also an open section to add to those reasons. While there are many good reasons not to want this information made public, probably the best reason is that many people foolishly give their Social Security number on their CWP application. This is both unwise and unnecessary since it is optional . If your information is made available to the public, any scumbag out there will have everything he needs to steal your identity!

Very good reason why on ANY form you are asked to fill out you should REFUSE to provide your SSI number (even IF they "say" it's required)!

Insist that they tell you why they want it and cite which law or regulation they are basing their "requirement" on. If it's a private company (and even some gov't agencies) politely tell them you are not required to give it out just because they request it. If they insist, take your business elsewhere.

For more info see: http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs10-ssn.htm#10

Deavis · Jan 1, 2009

Linn County Sheriff Mueller mailed privacy forms to all permittees in Linn County for them to check and return. He was lauded in this this county for it. In addition to being a vet, and the chief LEO in Linn Co. he is a member of the NRA..... doesn't get much better than that.