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Precursor to all of this:
I recently sought out my CCL specifically because I have had some crazy things happen to me while driving or riding my sport bike over the years. I've had on two instances insane road ragers come out and attack my vehicle over perceived wrong doings, I've been jumped at a gas station by two drunk individuals in broad day light (Fought back until cops showed up, if they'd had a gun/knife I'd be dead, instead all I got was a chipped tooth and a headache)... and a few times on my sport bike I've had to simply bug out because some wanna-be-gangster trying to be tough thought they could just run me off the road (and they'd have been right were I not on a very fast bike).
These situations for me are not incredibly common place and are more the exception (or I'd seek self fault, heh) but it's happened enough that I wanted to be in possession of a firearm so I stand a chance of being more than a victim if bubblegum goes wrong. I think most people on here can identify with that belief. I don't think I'd do anything differently than I had done I just know that if the other person continued their irrational assault and attempted to make it lethal, I'd stand a chance. I don' think that's all too unreasonable.
The situation that lead me to ask this question, and some info as I have found:
Shortly after getting my own CCL, my girlfriend went to get hers, and the lady noticed she was on a sport bike (I drove my truck to get mine). The lady working the desk was quick to explain that apparently, even with a concealed carry license, it is illegal to transport with a loaded or concealed firearm unless it is in a locked container or the gun itself has a lock on it. She provided this document to my girlfriend:
This appears to be a direct quote from Chapter 166 Offenses Against Public Order; Firearms and Other Weapons; Racketeering -- ORS 166.250, which can be found here: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/166.html . In case the image above is too small to read, here is the direct quote (since what my girlfriend was provided matches ORS 166.250):
So, this lady must surely be mistaken... since that means that once you get in a car or on your motorcycle, you are held to no different laws for possession of a firearm than the general public, CCL or not. I recognize section 166.274 says unless otherwise specified in the concealed carry section, but the concealed carry section only states what you legally need to apply (166.291), not that it exempts you from ANY of the unlawful possession of a firearm statements. So I'm getting various information from the class I took, the ladies issuing the license, reading the ORS, and everything I can find online. How am I even supposed to follow the law if it isn't clearly stated anywhere?!?!?
So, could some one please help shed some light on this, and ideally reference somebody or some article or ORS concerning this?
I recently sought out my CCL specifically because I have had some crazy things happen to me while driving or riding my sport bike over the years. I've had on two instances insane road ragers come out and attack my vehicle over perceived wrong doings, I've been jumped at a gas station by two drunk individuals in broad day light (Fought back until cops showed up, if they'd had a gun/knife I'd be dead, instead all I got was a chipped tooth and a headache)... and a few times on my sport bike I've had to simply bug out because some wanna-be-gangster trying to be tough thought they could just run me off the road (and they'd have been right were I not on a very fast bike).
These situations for me are not incredibly common place and are more the exception (or I'd seek self fault, heh) but it's happened enough that I wanted to be in possession of a firearm so I stand a chance of being more than a victim if bubblegum goes wrong. I think most people on here can identify with that belief. I don't think I'd do anything differently than I had done I just know that if the other person continued their irrational assault and attempted to make it lethal, I'd stand a chance. I don' think that's all too unreasonable.
The situation that lead me to ask this question, and some info as I have found:
Shortly after getting my own CCL, my girlfriend went to get hers, and the lady noticed she was on a sport bike (I drove my truck to get mine). The lady working the desk was quick to explain that apparently, even with a concealed carry license, it is illegal to transport with a loaded or concealed firearm unless it is in a locked container or the gun itself has a lock on it. She provided this document to my girlfriend:
This appears to be a direct quote from Chapter 166 Offenses Against Public Order; Firearms and Other Weapons; Racketeering -- ORS 166.250, which can be found here: http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/166.html . In case the image above is too small to read, here is the direct quote (since what my girlfriend was provided matches ORS 166.250):
(4)(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (c) of this subsection, a handgun is readily accessible within the meaning of this section if the handgun is within the passenger compartment of the vehicle.
(b) If a vehicle, other than a vehicle described in paragraph (c) of this subsection, has no storage location that is outside the passenger compartment of the vehicle, a handgun is not readily accessible within the meaning of this section if:
(A) The handgun is stored in a closed and locked glove compartment, center console or other container; and
(B) The key is not inserted into the lock, if the glove compartment, center console or other container unlocks with a key.
(c) If a vehicle is a motorcycle, an all-terrain vehicle or a snowmobile, a handgun is not readily accessible within the meaning of this section if:
(A) The handgun is in a locked container within or affixed to the vehicle; or
(B) The handgun is equipped with a trigger lock or other locking mechanism that prevents the discharge of the firearm.
So, this lady must surely be mistaken... since that means that once you get in a car or on your motorcycle, you are held to no different laws for possession of a firearm than the general public, CCL or not. I recognize section 166.274 says unless otherwise specified in the concealed carry section, but the concealed carry section only states what you legally need to apply (166.291), not that it exempts you from ANY of the unlawful possession of a firearm statements. So I'm getting various information from the class I took, the ladies issuing the license, reading the ORS, and everything I can find online. How am I even supposed to follow the law if it isn't clearly stated anywhere?!?!?
So, could some one please help shed some light on this, and ideally reference somebody or some article or ORS concerning this?