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Oregon Concealed Carry Question.

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by farpolemiddle, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. farpolemiddle

    farpolemiddle Portland Member

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    I just received my "appointment" for my CCW application and it mentions a "Handgun safety class certificate, or other documentation of competency in handgun safety as outlined in ORS 166.291(1)(a to f). Under e of ORS 166.291 it says, "Presents evidence of equivalent experience with a handgun through participation in organized shooting competition or military service;"

    Does this mean I can skip the safety class and just roll in with my DD214 or some other military paperwork? This is for Multnomah County. I had problems picking the right key words to search this.
     
  2. UncleSugar

    UncleSugar East County Member

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    I used my DD214 for a Multnomah County CCW years ago. I remember them being a little finicky about it stating small arms training, not just the sharpshooter ribbon.
     
  3. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    Your DD214 is required to specifically have "pistol" mentioned on it. I had my Marksmanship Instructor Certificate with me and on my DD214 and WA county told me that was unacceptable, luckily I'd also had the girl at IPAC put my pistol and rifle badges specifically on my DD214. If I hadn't had "Expert Pistol Badge" under the rewards section, she would not have given me the green light.

    If you decide to apply for your Arizona permit, they will take your DD214 in place of a class, even if it has zero firearms training listed on it.
     
  4. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The DD214 will have to specifically state Pistol Qualification,

    Your better off to sign up for one of the many CHL classes so you not only know how to use the thing but the PILE of laws surrounding carrying and using it.
     
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  5. farpolemiddle

    farpolemiddle Portland Member

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    OK. I carried a M9 for 3 years and qualed every 6 months but it is not on my DD214. The Army doesn't really work that way went it comes to "certs". I was just hoping to avoid a class.
     
  6. LProf

    LProf Oregon Member

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    I recently moved to West Linn from Florida, have a Florida concealed weapons license and served as an infantry Lt., but my DD214 does not mention pistol, so I had to take a course in Oregon.

    Just my opinion, but I am glad of it because notwithstanding that I am a very experienced shooter, I learned a lot of valuable information about Oregon's concealed carry and use of deadly force laws.
     
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  7. pchewn

    pchewn Beaverton Oregon USA Well-Known Member

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    The quickest and least effort way to get a training certificate is the free online class by the Maryland State Police. This self-serve online class takes a couple of minutes to complete and is valid for Oregon CPL use. (I speak from experience -- Washington County).

    MD Firearms Safety Training
     
  8. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I agree with what some others have said here. Your previous experience aside, you are required to know the laws of the state and local areas as they apply to your CHL. If for nothing else, it is well worth it to take a class locally. It's not that big a deal and may save you some serious hassle later. They always say that ignorance of the law isn't an excuse. If you violate a state carry law because you 'didn't know', you're still responsible. I suggest take the class.
     
  9. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    You're better off reading Oregon Leg. 166 than actually taking a class. The class is a waste of time, I've sat through the one at Multo Sheriff's a few times, and they don't teach you anything about the laws, they're not lawyers, so they can't give you legal advice. Basically, it's two hours of "if you shoot someone, be prepared to go to court".

    Leg. 166 has all of the laws regarding weapons, concealed carry, etc.
    http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/166.html

    Leg. 161 has all of the use of force laws for Oregon.
    http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/161.html
     
  10. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    This book is really good too. http://www.oregonfirearms.org/oregon-gun-laws-a-guide-in-plain-english
     
  11. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I still think the class is a good idea, regardless of whether it's boring or if you don't get all the info. If you take the class, you can demonstrate and document you did get training in those areas, which may help to protect you in the future if you use your pistol in self defense. I would recommend the class plus a thorough reading of Leg 161 and 166. The class I took in Clackamas County was taught by an active-duty CC deputy and was very informative and well worth the time. I'm sure some classes are better than others, asking around would be a good idea before you commit.
     
  12. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    My issue, is that an actual pistol class, one that teaches you how to shoot, proper safety, etc. don't fulfill the safety course requirement. I would say that your DD214 trumps a simple NRA pistol course, but then again, I'm not a lawyer.
     
  13. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    The class that I went through was very thorough concerning the law. Guess it depends on the instructor.