Oregon Buys Rifle ....

[RicInOR]

Oregon city pays $4,000 to buy gun used in 2014 deadly school shooting rather than hand it back to teen gunman's older brother

• This summer, his older sibling asked judge to order return of his weapon, But Troutdale City Council avoided this by proposing to buy gun off him. It paid $3,950 for AR-15 rifle, ammunition and other items found at scene. City mayor said he felt the purchase was 'a low cost to pay to reduce the amount of raw emotion and trauma we're still facing in this community'

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[etrain16]

How returning a rifle that was stolen from the brother generates emotion and trauma is beyond me. What a country we've become. I hope the taxpayers of Troutdale appreciate that use of their money.

 

[RicInOR]

http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/10/with_gun_buy_troutdale_city_co.html

With gun buy, Troutdale City Council thumbs nose at open-meetings law: Editorial

"But then, as Duin reported, officials did just about everything short of outright lying to hide the transaction from the public."

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

Unless it is needed as evidence in a pending case, it SHOULD be returned to the owner.
Emotions be damned.
That shouldnt be Troutdales call.

Shoot, $4,000 for a rifle some mags and ammo? At least they paid him extra hush money.

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

They say they wanted to "reduce the amount of raw emotion and trauma we're still facing in this community", I call B.S..

They could have quietly given it back to him or offered to have it destroyed if that was his wish.

Now it's in the news again bringing up emotion and trauma again. Sounds like that was what they wanted to me.

 

[41Slinger]

With 4 grand of the tax payers money he should be able to buy a couple of real nice AR's and a couple thousand rounds of ammo, some extra parts and coffee. Thanks Troutdale, I'd take that deal in a minute, excellent gun buy back program, we need more like this. How bubbleguming stupid are these people ?

 

[Goosebrown]

Thanks Troutdale indeed.

 

[etrain16]

I hope the folks that actually live in Troutdale are hounding the City Council, Mayor, etc. for this decision. They really need to be aware of the results of their decision, especially since they attempted to hide it from the public.

 

[bolus]

I sent them an email to see if they will pay $4000 for my polymer lower. I need 50 bmg money
http://www.ci.troutdale.or.us/mayor-council/contact.html

 

[pchewn]

Did they do a background check?

 

[Stomper]

I heard the reason was to keep the sick mofo's (that ARE out there) from wanting to buy it because of the weapon's notoriety of having been used in a murder.

 

[Stomper]

That'd work!

 

[ConcreteJungle]

i'm willing to paint everything i have black and sell it to them at bumped up prices. I'll even write the words "assault weapon" on the side of each. SMH
just a waste of tax-payer money.

 

[David Bowman]

I am curious? How did they do that? Who received it? How did they "transfer" it? I am quite certain that the requirements of SB941 were not met in conducting this transfer. Someone is going to have to log that onto the property books with the PD or the Administration, so someone had to "receive" it and that would mean that it would have to comply with the law.

Or is the city of Troutdale one of the places that "will not comply?"

This is what happens when a state filled with people who came here in covered wagons over a century ago becomes a state dominated by the people who a century ago said "Don't go! It's dangerous!"

 

[etrain16]

I am curious? How did they do that? Who received it? How did they "transfer" it? I am quite certain that the requirements of SB941 were not met in conducting this transfer. Someone is going to have to log that onto the property books with the PD or the Administration, so someone had to "receive" it and that would mean that it would have to comply with the law.

Or is the city of Troutdale one of the places that "will not comply?"

This has been discussed previously - LE agencies are exempt from the transfer requirement under 941:

The requirements of subsections (2) and (3) of this section do not apply to:

(a) The transfer of a firearm by or to a law enforcement agency, or by or to a law
enforcement officer, private security professional or member of the Armed Forces of the
United States, while that person is acting within the scope of official duties.

Source: https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2015R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB941/Introduced

 

[David Bowman]

This has been discussed previously - LE agencies are exempt from the transfer requirement under 941:

The requirements of subsections (2) and (3) of this section do not apply to:

(a) The transfer of a firearm by or to a law enforcement agency, or by or to a law
enforcement officer, private security professional or member of the Armed Forces of the
United States, while that person is acting within the scope of official duties.

Source: https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2015R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB941/Introduced

Yeah, I get it, but Troutdale PD didn't transfer it; the City of Troutdale did with their budget. I am certain I am caught up in the semantics of t, because government...

Still seems like a dumb idea to pay that much for and AR15 and some ammo though.

 

[etrain16]

Yeah, I get it, but Troutdale PD didn't transfer it; the City of Troutdale did with their budget. I am certain I am caught up in the semantics of t, because government...

Still seems like a dumb idea to pay that much for and AR15 and some ammo though.

There was more than that. He apparently had some other stuff that was taken by his brother and used as well (some 'tactical gear' as I recall). I heard they were given an itemized list and they negotiated the price. I would find it hard to believe they would pay anything near retail.

As for the gun, they may have paid for it, but I would be willing to bet the police are the ones that have possession. Either way 941 is still a bunch of feel good B.S. that will do nothing to reduce gun crime, just as all the other gun laws around the country have failed to do.

 

[Stomper]

Remember, SB941 was just a "good first step"... you know the end game goals.

 

[DuneHopper]

Its a sad state of affairs when the Government has it drilled in their heads its their money to spend as they want. Since when does a City Counsel have the right to seize property that was not illegal to have ? Who do they think the are the ATF ?

 

[erudne]

I have an old Crossman (now declared a Firearm) that I intend to paint black and turn in at the next buy-back