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Oregon "Black Box" mileage tax pilot program

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Skier, Oct 30, 2013.

  1. Skier

    Skier Beaverton/Washington County Active Member

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    I heard the feds are looking into this, and didn't like the sound of it much, then did a little searching and found that Oregon is pushing the hardest to test (with the largest pilot program in the nation) and possibly implement "mileage and/or GPS tracking devices" in cars as an alternative to gas taxes (since road needs repairs and higher mileage/electric cars are resulting in less revenue being generated via gas tax). Interesting reading:

    Oregon launching new program to tax drivers per mile | Fox News

    Plan would track, tax cars by mile - chicagotribune.com

    A black box in your car? Some see a source of tax revenue - latimes.com

    » Feds planning black box vehicle mandate to track, tax and even remotely control all personal vehicles Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
     
  2. DMax

    DMax Yamhill Well-Known Member

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    This is just typical liberal policies. Let get everyone driving go karts with better mileage its for the planet and reduction of fossil fuels (talking points) then the kool aid drinkers do it then Now we have to pay for the roads because no revenue from reduced fuel sales raise taxes create new ways to have big brother watching increase costs. Results drive a less safe, cramped no room, no tow vehicle made out of recycled beer cans and pay more you think they will reduce the fuel tax. The gov never gets rid of anything even when they say we will just do a temporary sales tax and monitor the results before you know it it perimant and in the mileage and fuel tax both will be shoved up the Americans butt as its for the children.
     
  3. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    you know what's more fair? put up tolls on the state highways for motor vehicles. as for city roads/county roads..leave those alone...or put them as part of the property tax packages....

    yeah yeah yeah, no one is gonna vote for adding toll roads...that is clearly obvious ;)

    I highly doubt with all the extra cars people have...that mileage tax thing with the black boxes will ever get mainstreamed, unless the entire state of Oregon implements DEQ testing like Portland does...
     
  4. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I got a better idea STOP WASTING GAS TAX MONEY ON STUPID CHOO CHOO TRAINS AND BICYCLE PATHS....and there will be plenty enough money to have people like me pave the roads and build new ones.
     
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  5. Blaylocke

    Blaylocke Lewis County Active Member

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    If they really want to go by mileage, why not just check the odometer at licensing and have a fee paid on that?
     
  6. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    Odometer's can be disconnected
     
  7. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    Wonder how are Faraday cage will work on those Black boxes?
     
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  8. Blaylocke

    Blaylocke Lewis County Active Member

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    Your average person isn't going to know how to do that. These black boxes could be implemented without GPS.
     
  9. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Who really cares how many miles you drive? If you drive a lot of miles, you're probably doing something for work thus adding to the states economy when you buy gas, beef jerky or Red Bulls on the long drive.
    All this is a ploy staged by liberals to force regular people to ride the crime infested MAX trains when we go to Portland or buy an idiotic electric car. Again, the liberal morons who have completely screwed up the biggest city in Oregon wants to make policy for the entire state.
    I'll stick with my 1-Ton Dodge Cummins Turbo Diesel thank you very much.
     
  10. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    I for one would rather be able to have a separate bike path from the road/parking spots and separate from the sidewalk... I can't trust the lot of drivers in Portland or Salem for that matter; when I ride my bicycle... and most places, not allowed on sidewalks because of the pedestrians.

    (as opposed to bike lanes between parked cars and the roadway)

    now; if they made it mandatory to license a bicycle and register it as a road vehicle...then that could provide more money to put towards maintaining/making bike paths. This would make it far more easier to track stolen bicycles.....which..last I recall... Portland is 2nd in the nation, behind NYC in numbers of stolen bicycles?
     
  11. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Please. Instructions for just about anything is only a Google search or two away.
     
  12. Blaylocke

    Blaylocke Lewis County Active Member

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    Ok, you're right. Let's put GPS in everybody's cars :laugh:
     
  13. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    if you have your cell phone in your pocket you do have a GPS in your car when you drive.
     
  14. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    What I want to know is will the State of Oregon tax me on miles driven in Washington or Idaho or anywhere else outside the state I travel? or will the Tax stop at the border.

    And what are they going to do about my 1948 Willys Jeep with the 6volt battery and the closest thing to an electronic anything being a coil and a set of points.

    And who's paying for these fancy little boxes? At work we just put this type of GPS tracking system in 5 of our trucks and it cost $1200.00 per truck Granted the guys can also do an electronic pretrip/posttrip inspection with the unit.
     
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  15. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    If the liberal idiots have their way, the hood on your Jeep will probably be converted to a solar panel.....
     
  16. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    They better make them damn small cause they are going to hurt when we shove them up their .....................................
     
  17. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    News Flash.....

    if the state of Oregon needs more money in taxes, why doesn't Gov. Kitzbozo ensure all the illegals he's giving drivers licenses to are signed up with the state so they can pay.....how does Obama put it? Their "fair ( or fare?) share" in state income tax like the rest of us? ....

    Problem solved.
     
  18. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    The most advanced vehicle I have has HEI and that is pretty damn fancy as far as I'm concerned.
     
  19. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    Here's the easy fix.
    Move out of the state.
    My family of six are out!
     
  20. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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