I had the opportunity to shoot an AR with a cheap (CTD cheap :laugh 3.5x optic last weekend. The optic was nothing great at all but one thing I liked was that when shooting pumkins and jugs at over 100 yards it was much easier and fun than trying to do it with my EoTech. I don't want a CTD crappy Chinese optic with a canted reticle. On the other hand I don't want to spend $800-1200 on a Trijicon. I'd just like a $200-350 1-4x optic that would be good for 25-400 yards "ish". Vote for my choices or suggest a different product that fits within my general specs.