Other State Opinions On This Police Shooting.

[American123]

Police responding to a call for assistance may not enter a residence unless they have reasonable cause to believe that a life is in danger or a crime is being committed. If you answer your door with a gun in your hand, you have not committed a crime. Entrance to the home must be granted by the complainant or via warrant. Now the weasel words. If a LEO believes that you are making or made a "furtive" movement or did ANYTHING to make him/her believe that you were going to bring harm to them, they may blow you full of holes.

Another winning argument for not answering the door.

 

[oldcorpgunny]

Another winning argument for not answering the door.

It's also a good idea to ask them to call you on your phone, so that you can ascertain their reason for being on your property.

 

[Kruel J]

Lol... so you just like to debate?

No, I just don't think not having a camera is some kind of fault.

 

[oldcorpgunny]

No, I just don't think not having a camera is some kind of fault.

I have three WYZE cameras at my place. They are inexpensive and work very well using the phone app.

 

[Kruel J]

I have three WYZE cameras at my place. They are inexpensive and work very well using the phone app.

I have a Ring cam and the app. Works well.

 

[DB is Here]

I have three WYZE cameras at my place. They are inexpensive and work very well using the phone app.

Me too, buy it and no monthly fees.

 

[American123]

No, I just don't think not having a camera is some kind of fault.

Didn't fault the guy for not having a camera, he could have asked through the door who it was and probably survived if he wanted to.

 

[DB is Here]

To little info to make a call on the shoot. Did they have prior calls? Was there a history with the couple?

Sad day for all involved as there are no winners here.

 

[bbbass]

Since I'm like The Heretic and don't holster a gun on my jockey shorts, I have firearms in strategic places. I have had knocks on the door after dark that I have gotten my handgun in my hand at the door, but I look thru the peephole to see who it is. A Ring camera would be nice, but it's an expense I haven't gone for, yet, since I have the peepholes on both doors.

Glad I don't have a sidelight that I would be visible in, and I certainly don't show up in the nearby window waving a firearm around!!!

 

[cigars]

.... and ONCE AND FOR ALL for THE RECORD.... it's pronounced, "puh-hone-ix".

Learn it, love it, live it!

As in, "hooked on pu-hone-ix"?

 

[Stomper]

As in, "hooked on pu-hone-ix"?

 

[cigars]

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Lol. That wasn't my intention.

 

[bbbass]

Lol. That wasn't my intention.

You can't help it, you were born with it...

 

[cigars]

Thanks and good night folks I'll be here all week and don't forget to tip your waitress I mean gender neutral table attendant.

 

[awshoot]

So if someone knocks on your door in the middle of the night, and you are unaware of who it is you would just blindly open the door without any way to protect yourself? Nope, not me.

And cameras shouldn't be required for any reason.

I don't think you're wrong, but the dude did whip the door open and charge right out -- I think you can see this more clearly in the 2nd officer's cam. Anyway, to me, that's not indicative of a defensive posture -- it's indicative of an aggressive one.

I presume we all know how quickly a gun in the hand can be raised and make a center mass shot at 5' so I can understand why he got shot. It is an ugly situation but it's also true that he's the one who brought the initial aggression here and he could have easily killed one of those cops in something less than one second.

My guess is he thought an annoyed neighbor was knocking on his door to complain and he figured he'd show him what's what. That's a pure presumption on my part but having lived in an apartment above loud hard druggies once upon a time, I have trouble mustering sympathy. That's my bias though -- not based on evidence of any kind -- but something you may want to consider when evaluating the validity of my opinion.

 

[RVTECH]

I would also like to add showing up at the door shirtless, in shorts and looking a bit like you have been swilling it up and maybe 'doing' something else and a gun in hand does not present you as 'non-threatening' on the surface.

 

[awshoot]

Since I'm like The Heretic and don't holster a gun on my jockey shorts, I have firearms in strategic places. I have had knocks on the door after dark that I have gotten my handgun in my hand at the door, but I look thru the peephole to see who it is. A Ring camera would be nice, but it's an expense I haven't gone for, yet, since I have the peepholes on both doors.

Glad I don't have a sidelight that I would be visible in, and I certainly don't show up in the nearby window waving a firearm around!!!

The advantage with a camera over a peephole is evidence. The peep hole leaves you with a memory you can tell people who may or may not believe you. The camera gives you a video you can show to anyone.

 

[No_Regerts]

The advantage with a camera over a peephole is evidence. The peep hole leaves you with a memory you can tell people who may or may not believe you. The camera gives you a video you can show to anyone.

Ask Erin Andrews about cameras and peepholes!

 

[awshoot]

Ask Erin Andrews about cameras and peepholes!

Had to google that

 

[Wombat of Doom]

I don't answer the door unless I know who is on the other side and unless you are my brother or a very close friend who would call first.