Open letter to .22 ammo Buyers and Sellers

[KalamaMark]

I read this yesterday, and saw an ad here this morning from a new scalper advertising .22 at $46 a brick.

I thought this was a well written piece and worthy of a share.

http://gunssavelives.net/blog/an-open-letter-to-22lr-buyers-and-seekers/#

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[Modeler]

Hmmm.... I just thought of something. There has been talk on-and-off for quite a while about having to have a minimum number of posts before posting any classifieds, even though that can create it's own problems. Maybe a minimum number of posts before being allowed to sell ammo instead?

 

[PDXSparky]

I pledge to only pay normal retail prices for .22 ammo and I'll likely not buy high velocity rounds at all. I'm only really wanting standard velocity or subsonic .22 because I really like the quiet of shooting suppressed bolt action.

 

[Nwcid]

I pledge to not buy any for a few years. Oh wait, that is because I have been stocking up for years. It is my ammo savings account for times like these.

 

[Nightshade]

I pledge not to do any type of business with scalper's gun's or otherwise.

 

[The Heretic]

I don't buy rimfire ammo at the prices some are asking - I have enough to last me for a while. Let the scalpers try to hoard ammo and scalp, I won't pay their prices. Someday they will be left holding the bag.

 

[Lone Gunman]

Never have bought scalper ammo. And probably never will (unless the preppers' fears come true).

That was a good piece describing how the problem arose, though a bit simplistic.

 

[slimmer13]

I simply stumbled upon it ironically it was at a Walmart. I watched as their entire inventory left the shelf (50 bricks) in less than 5 minutes.

Because of people like you.

I like how you try and justify your flipping ammo for personal gain, like you are doing us a favor lol.

 

[2Wheels4Ever]

ABG guns here in corvallis was selling bricks for $45. I refuse to pay these prices, and I wish more would as well. As soon as people realize that they are shooting themselves in the foot the better.

22lrforsale, you are not doing us a kindness by only making 100% profit and justifying it because others are making 200-300%. I can reload .38 special for $.09 a round, and until .22lr comes down that is what i will be shooting at the range.

 

[coyoteman5]

In history people who did similar things with food and other types of rations including ammo. When things return to normal their neighbors and town people remembered it and at times it did not farewell for that person and by no means is this a threat just something I've noticed looking into history of such as World War II World War I or even natural disasters. And even if crap hits the fan neighbors and town people also remember it and it comes to dealing with that person or persons in trading or bartering.
Again this is not a threat just an observation looking into history.Of course that's why sometimes people sell things anonymously/different name so that they are not made out. If I can I buy it at Bimart or Walmart or Sportsmans Warehouse if not I wait until they have.

 

[slimmer13]

I don't think anyone is saying that flipping a high demand item for personal gain is wrong (unless of course you are not paying taxes on your profit), but just because something is legal does not make it righteous and people will get angry. I am glad you don't have qualms about it.

 

[Mr Smith]

nobody likes ammo scalpers just like nobody likes ticket scalpers. You buy up ammo you have no intent on using yourself just to sell it at 100% profit when someone else who may have wanted to go shooting with it won't get the chance now.

Yes it is your right to rip people off, and it is also our right to think you're a POS for it.

Just because you have the right to do something doesn't make it a good idea to do.


I personally will never buy ammo from a scalper. Nor will I buy overpriced ammo.

Wally world sells those 550 bricks for $23.97/ea ($0.04/rd)

You are doing us no favors by helping empty the shelves for personal gain.

I bought 6 bricks my last trip to wally world, 3 for me, and 3 for my buddy who wouldn't have been able to get there in time.

I sold him his 3 bricks for cost. (around $80 after tax for 3 bricks) I didn't make a single dime of profit. That is doing a favor for someone. trying to sell for double what I paid for it is not doing any favors, that's just being plain and simple greedy.


so let's just see how legal you are selling your bricks for double: are you planning to report the 100% income to uncle sam so he can charge income tax on it? I doubt it...

 

[bnsaibum]

ABG guns here in corvallis was selling bricks for $45. I refuse to pay these prices, and I wish more would as well.

To be fair, that isn't much more than what their prices were 18 months ago.

 

[2Wheels4Ever]

And it is your right to think that, and had I not been lucky and found .22lr I would be in the same boat as you. The difference between you and I is that you feel your being treated unfairly. If you feel that way I encourage you to vote socialist party in the upcoming elections.

As always, I don't have any hard feelings toward you guys.

22lr

By no means do I feel that I am being treated unfairly. Fairness is not a factor for me in this discussion; stupidity is. If you were forcing me to buy your product, then I would feel that I am being treated unfairly, but since that is not the case, I rather feel that you are stupidly hurting yourself and others. I am not hurting for .22lr; you may find that unfair, but I call it tough luck.

 

[cpy911]

22lrforsale, if you can get more per box, why are you messing around here? Why not go for max profit and sell it somewhere else? Otherwise make some friends to some guys around here and sell it at cost.

You don't seem very popular here so it would make sense for you to move on and make more money. Are you providing us a service with only the 100% markup?

 

[Modeler]

New site, time to test out the profanity filter....

(note: this is not a personal attack on 22lrforsale, but rather a generalized rant about people who buy a product and sell it to their compatriots at inflated prices.)

IMHO, people who buy ammunition at market prices at a retail outlet and then sell it to those in their community are worthless pieces of bubblegum. These kind of folks probably would whore out their own mothers to make a buck, and will likely sell their own children into slavery given the opportunity. They can all go bubblegum themselves!

 

[Modeler]

Looks like it works....

 

[bnsaibum]

Are you saying that true market value is actually higher and has been higher for a few years? Because if so I would agree with you. My point is that retail stores actually sell well below true market value. Thus the problem. If Walmart can't keep their product on their shelves for more than 5 minutes then I would say that is evidence enough. But again, like I said before, people keep on holding to a 2 year old perspective of value. I seriously believe my post is fair market value. You may disagree but that is your right. And also like I said before, I came here first before going elsewhere where I can make much more.

Anyway I'm going in for the night. Thank you folks for keeping the comments relatively civil.

As always I hold no ill will, and if you happen to be a person who thinks my add is over priced I really do hope your luck turns in your favor soon.

22lr

It was tongue ın cheek. Perhaps you have seen prıces at places that do not move very much ammo? A local gun shop I know of has very reasonable prices on firearms and service, but his ammo prices roughly match yours and have not changed in the last two years. Please, by all means, go somewhere else.

 

[bnsaibum]

New site, time to test out the profanity filter....

You can get around the fılter by usıng another language scrıpt. Notıce the lack of a dot on the ı. Thıs ıs the Türkçe scrıpt. ( example; bubblegum ), nope still works Just manually.




It has actually improved from the old site, unless the Gods have intervened.

 

[40calruler]

As I have said many times it is a matter of you personal morals/ethics. I believe ammo is off limits to the old saying of supply and demand. It is taking away from a community of people that bonds with their children, wives, new shooters of any kind in teaching them to shoot.
22lr is what most of us first shot. If you feel good taking that away from kids now then as I said it is your moral compass that I feel is broken. Do what you will but hopefully you think about how much you paid when someone taught you to shoot as a kid. It did not break your dads, uncles, grandpas bank to let you plink all day with 22.