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OOOPS! US Trucker with 268,000 rounds of ammo makes wrong turn to Mexico!!!

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Bravo4, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. Bravo4

    Bravo4 Polk County, OR Member

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  2. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Cargo hidden under pallets IN the trucks floor?

    Sounds kind of suspicious but then they also say a .308 round fits an AK-47. I didn't know that, guess I missed it.
     
  3. theguncrank

    theguncrank Columbia County Active Member

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    That part about the ammo being "hidden under pallets" and intended for AK-47 is what "Mexican prosecutors said." Likely the only experience they have with ammunition is dodging boolits in the streets of their crime ridden homeland...
     
  4. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    That's what's suspicious about it! I want to see what Holder says about it! Maybe it's an FBI/BATF shipment to Mexico?
     
  5. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Did the truck say HOLDER & SON Inc. on the side by any chance?
     
  6. DCKilla

    DCKilla Wet Side, WA Member

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    If the driver did make a wrong turn. It's going to be a big hole to climb out of.

    What if you are caught in a blizzard carrying an AR and wonder into Canada? Good luck...
     
  7. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Um, something doesn't make sense here...

    If he was taking ammo to Mexico and caught coming back into the US with it wouldn't he be detained in the US? What it sounds like happened is that he entered Mexico, tried to do a U-Turn, got pulled over and detained by Mexican authorities on trumped up charges until the company pays the Juarez police (one of the most corrupt and violent districts in all of Mexico) for the truck and driver's release. If he was truly scanned with an X-Ray scanner (US Boarder Patrol equipment) wouldn't he be detained in the US? Something doesn't jive here...if the dude had hidden compartments in pallets I doubt some Mexican Agent would have found it (or cared for that matter)...if an American BP agent found it he would be detained in the United States, not in Mexico.
     
  8. jimwsea

    jimwsea Vancouver, Washington state Active Member

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    How do you take a wrong turn and NOT go through Customs?
     
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  9. lonegunman

    lonegunman Eastern Washington Active Member

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    Welcome to the third world,,,,,,,,,liars and thieves. You do not pass thru US customs to go to the third world, they will not let you turn around or go back where you from. If the driver was smart he would have stopped on the side of the road while still in the US of A and refused to drive any farther, period. Wait for a tow truck from Estatos Unidos to take you home.
     
  10. CharonPDX

    CharonPDX Portland, OR Active Member

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    My aunt's first cross-country solo flight was in Northern Washington, and she accidentally landed at a small Canadian airport by mistake. She was told to wait on the taxiway, in the aircraft, until a crew from Canadian Border Patrol arrived with rifles. (This was the late '70s, and they were worried about US drug runners crossing the border illicitly!)
     
  11. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    FYI, All of the ammo pictures from the truck is on links...they look to be 7.62x51 NATO in ammo cans. Anyone reporting that the ammo can be used in a standard AK is a moron.

    Photos: Ammunition seizure in Juarez, U.S. trucker arrested – - El Paso Times Media Center here

    It sounds like he did...he went through customs in Mexico.

    From what I've been hearing, this is a common mistake. El Paso to Jarez is a "speghetti bowl" for free way on/off ramps.


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    One wrong turn and you are going to Mexico...period.
     
  12. robertg

    robertg Sandy Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    It looks like the surplus Pakistan ammo on links, I just bought some of that stuff. It smells like camels.
     
  13. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Mexico uses the G3 7.62 NATO.. this is VERY suspicious..

    Fortunately I have plenty myself and I know a lot of you lads do, too
     
  14. EMP9596

    EMP9596 Two Trees West of Camas, WA. Active Member

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    Howard Glaser, owner of United Nations Ammunition in Phoenix said the cargo was 18,000 units of 5.56 caliber bullets like those used for AR-15 assault rifles and 250,000 .308 caliber bullets. Glaser said he bought these surplus rounds from Wideners, an ammunition distribution company in Tennessee and they were intended to be sold mostly online at his online store. There was no immediate comment from Wideners regarding this cargo.


    Anybody have any dealings with UNA?
    United Nations Ammo Company (UNAC)
     
  15. EMP9596

    EMP9596 Two Trees West of Camas, WA. Active Member

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    If Mexico ever releases the truck and it's load?

    I wonder how short the round count will be???
     
  16. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    That reminds me of a young LT in the US Army that also made a wrong turn, or should I say he did not make a turn when he should have? This was about 1972-73 time period.

    Anyway, this poor young LT was leading a convoy of trucks carrying (nuclear capable) Pershing Missles and their support equipment to the Sperrgebiet (training area) at Grafenwöhr near the East German Border. By treaty, the missles were not supposed within 5km of the east German Border...Well he ended up in downtown Hof (an old city with very narrow streets), trying to get the carriers (very large trucks with very long trailers that were also the lauchers, with missles in the launchers) turned around so they would not cross into east Germany....they sent the poor boy home after that one.

    I did a no-no on that trip..I broke convoy and took all the support vehicles to Grafenwöhr with me, then reported to command where they could find their lost missles...I really felt sorry for the poor kid. He had just received his commission and that was his first (and last) convoy command.
     
  17. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

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    Now you know

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  18. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    That is an amazing story, thanks for sharing
     
  19. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    FYI, That's a Saiga, not an AK.

    Lastly, looks like the driver did get turned around and was detained in the United States...

    But this gets me...

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/dallas-truck-driver-carrying-ammunition-arrested-mexico/story?id=16180961

    So the dude tried to come back into the united states and did, in fact, get turned around somehow....but then when our BP agents asked him if he had anything to declare and he said "no" they searched the vehicle, detained the driver and seized the goods. What kills me is that they turned him over to the Mexican authorities for taking the ammunition to Mexico...even though he was caught trying to come back into the United States.

    What a mess...why couldn't the agents just scratched this one off as an "oops" and sent the driver on his way?
     
  20. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    The Mexicans don't have Saigas, they have G3 HK rifles
     
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