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One more reason to carry concealed, even in Church.

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Rotty, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. Rotty

    Rotty Skagit County Active Member

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  2. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    How much you want to bet the preacher was banging the guys wife?
     
  3. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    He who lives by the sword dies by the sword. hyuck yuk
     
  4. mrblond

    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    Waa. Waa waaaaaaa....
     
  5. Rotty

    Rotty Skagit County Active Member

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    That's a bet I wouldn't want to take. The whole scenario smells fishy. An individual walks into church in front of the entire congregation kills the pastor then leaves. When he was caught he shows the police where he ditched the guns.
     
  6. Sling Blade

    Sling Blade Yamhill County Well-Known Member

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    Those Lutherans are known for being hot headed.
     
  7. Nutty4Guns

    Nutty4Guns Portland ADHD Superstar

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    My question is why a second-degree murder charge and not a First?
     
  8. Hrethgir

    Hrethgir Beaverton, OR Active Member

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    Yeah, this definitely doesn't sound like a spur-of-the-moment thing, sounds very premeditated. Maybe if you gun down the guy plowing your wife, they consider that a mitigating circumstance or something. Crime of passion.
     
  9. CJ49er

    CJ49er Lake Oswego Member

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  10. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    Kinda points to something like this:
    Found out about wife or daughter or whatever, Maybe he counceled her to leave him for being an abusive bastard, he gets pissed and went to find him with firearms in hand, shot him dead, bam-Murder 2. Not pre meditated, not random.
     
  11. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    Consensual or not, He got what he deserved, He is in a position of trust and he abused that. An angry husband isn't as much of a deterrent as it used to be, but is should be.
     
  12. Nutty4Guns

    Nutty4Guns Portland ADHD Superstar

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    Agreed. Hopefully he gets a sympathetic jury.
     
  13. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Definitely can see if she was raped the hubby going off the deep end and killing the guy. Maybe manslaughter hopefully with a sympathetic jury. He'd be better off if this happened in Texas.
     
  14. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    In Texas this happens out in the sage brush somewhere, the guy simply vanishes, and no trace is found. The buzzards eat well and the case is closed for lack of evidence.
     
  15. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    This isn't too far east of there.
     
  16. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    The title of the thread got me thinking, I am interested to hear what you think the right thing would have been to do? Perhaps you are not are not a Church going or otherwise God fearing individual, Then we might contextualize it differently. What if you were at a wedding or a funeral? or in a seminar with someone you respected up there speaking, a good friend, or a mentor? Someone enters the room Toting a shotty levels it at your friend, or the minister or funeral director and takes the flower pot on the podium out, What do you do? Let's say You Don't know the back story, You really don't have time to evaluate, you're not asking what is this this guy's motive for shooting at this individual? Where does your Philosophy of use for that Concealed weapon take you?
     
  17. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't really matter the reason why he is pointing a shotgun about to take somebody out? Guess you could ask the same question at the mall or a school, people get too tied up in the question why are they doing this.
     
  18. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Well, tough call in a crowded area.... Let's say you get the shooter guy but have a couple of through and throughs and now you are a mass shooter!
    my guess, at least a third of the congregation had an idea what was going on.
    Just goes to show what happens when you think with the little head and not the bigger one.
    Brutus out
     
  19. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    You must Carry a Five seveN lol ;)
     
  20. Rotty

    Rotty Skagit County Active Member

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    I think anyone carrying a weapon with the intent to harm someone is clearly not in their right mind and a threat to anyone in their immediate area. I would hope that anyone responsibly carrying a concealed weapon would take action against an armed adversary in a scenario such as this.

    The questions of "Why is his person doing this" becomes immediately irrelevant. The bigger statement should be "Protect family and friends."