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One in the chamber

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by THC101, May 24, 2010.

  1. THC101

    THC101 Pierce County Member

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    a friend of mine seems to believe that if you are caught with a bullet chambered while carrying, you can be charged.

    If someone has a concealed permit may they carry with a loaded round? ( as long as they arent in prohibited areas i.e courts, schools, etc)

    thanks guys
     
  2. tattoo

    tattoo NorthWest Active Member

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    If you carry a revolver, I guess your up spit creek. :)
    Dave
     
  3. THC101

    THC101 Pierce County Member

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    haha well that pretty much answers my question then eh?

    The language in these laws can sometimes be so convoluted and hard to translate, I just needed to find a clear cut answer. thanks buddy!
     
  4. parsons_12b

    parsons_12b LaPine Oregon Well-Known Member

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    What would be the point of carrying if you did not have one in the chamber.
     
  5. THC101

    THC101 Pierce County Member

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    thats what I always thought, sometimes the laws just doesnt make sense though, thats why i ask.
     
  6. Hungus

    Hungus SE Portland Member

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    I just took my conceal class a few months ago at the multnomah county sherrif and that question was asked. We were told that it doesn't matter. The teacher always carries one in the chamber. So I am pretty sure you are ok.
     
  7. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Tell your friend that he can carry with one in the pipe any place that it is legal to carry his firearm. :thumbup:
     
  8. michaelhacker

    michaelhacker Portland, Oregon area New Member

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    Swoop is exactly right... you have the right to carry in any condition you are comfortable with, ie. condition one, cocked and locked as long as you are CHL holder in legal locations.

    -Michael
    www.michaelhacker.com
     
  9. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    WA and OR permits, I carry one in the pipe all the time in either state.

    But, is it legal to carry a rifle with the mag in the gun in WA or OR? I know the concealed permit makes no difference with a rifle. Was planning on carrying a rifle in my car in a case along with the mags, just don't know if I can leave the mag in the rifle or it has to be out of the gun.

    Seems to me I remember that the mag can't be in the long gun. Can someone point me to the relavent laws?

    Deen
    NRA Benefactor/Recruiter
    WAC member
    SWWAC member
     
  10. Spray-n-pray

    Spray-n-pray Battle Ground Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't have a link to the actual laws right now, but in WA you cannot carry a loaded rifle or shotgun in a vehicle. That means a round in the chamber or in a magazine insterted in the firearm. In Oregon, either are allowed. Aw heck. I am gonna look up the law now.

    In WA:
    RCW 77.15.460
    Loaded firearm in vehicle — Unlawful use or possession — Penalty.

    (1) A person is guilty of unlawful possession of a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle if:

    (a) The person carries, transports, conveys, possesses, or controls a rifle or shotgun in or on a motor vehicle; and

    (b) The rifle or shotgun contains shells or cartridges in the magazine or chamber, or is a muzzle-loading firearm that is loaded and capped or primed.


    (2) A person is guilty of unlawful use of a loaded firearm if the person negligently shoots a firearm from, across, or along the maintained portion of a public highway.

    (3) Unlawful possession of a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle or unlawful use of a loaded firearm is a misdemeanor.

    (4) This section does not apply if the person:

    (a) Is a law enforcement officer who is authorized to carry a firearm and is on duty within the officer's respective jurisdiction;

    (b) Possesses a disabled hunter's permit as provided by RCW 77.32.237 and complies with all rules of the department concerning hunting by persons with disabilities.

    (5) For purposes of this section, a firearm shall not be considered loaded if the detachable clip or magazine is not inserted in or attached to the firearm.

    In Oregon: Ok, I got tired of looking for it. I bore easily I guess. Maybe someone can help me out with the aplicable Oregon law.
     
  11. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    LOL! Ask the Gi's in the sand box, that is the new rule of engagement, chamber must be empty. Talk about allowing our Military Men to be killed with these stupip f'n rules!
     
  12. Seafarinman

    Seafarinman Washington State Member

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    Absolutely right. When I was in the sandbox, and was required to carry a concealed weapon when traveling off post in civilian clothes, we were forbidden from carrying our M9's with a round in the chamber. Never had to use it, but I always had that in the back of my mind. Of course it was the officers who were the ones having the ND's!
     
  13. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    now if someone can post the OR cite or at least the area in the statutes to start looking. Sounds like I can carry the long gun (KelTec SU-16C) with the loaded mags out of the well with no trouble.
     
  14. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Might as well be carrying a rock.
     
  15. NCW Ray

    NCW Ray Sunny Eastern Washington Active Member

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    Chapter 9.41 RCW
     
  16. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    Ok people buy the book "understanding Oregon Gun Laws"
    by Kevin starrett

    you will find your answers there.

    "prohibited areas i.e courts, schools,"
    look up what it says about schools.You will be educated as to what is
    correct.