One in 3 US veteran firearm owners keeps a gun loaded and unlocked

[Cavedweller]

So then......"loaded = unsafe"?

Not only that, only those foolish enough to think that guns are needed for protection would do this.

 

[maddog]

I removed the banner gentlemen. Thank you for getting this thread back on track. It says something about our great members!

Now what kind of friends would we be if we made you get heavy your first week on the job?




edited to correct grammar school grammar.

 

[Cavedweller]

This study has more holes in it than Swiss cheese, but this is my favorite:

"Response to GfK surveys is incentivized through a point system by which respondents accumulate points to redeem for cash, merchandise, or sweepstakes participation. For this study, respondents were included if they self-identified as Veterans; reported living in a home with a firearm and personally owning a firearm in working order.."

No serious scientist considers self-reported data reliable anyway, but how about lets give people an incentive to misrepresent who they are.

 

[DuneHopper]

More useless facts by these guys.

Nine out of 10 Criminals, using a gun are breaking the law.
You are more apt to drown while swimming then why walking.
Survey shows, people that spend more money then they have, end up not having any money.

 

[Slobray]

More useless facts by these guys.

Survey shows, people that spend more money then they have, end up not having any money.

That can't be right............................. politicians spend billions more than they have and still end up as millionaires.



Ray

 

[DuneHopper]

Cold Fusion? Reverse osmosis ? Time Travel ? Lucky Lottery tickets ?

That can't be right............................. politicians spend billions more than they have and still end up as millionaires.



Ray

 

[IOM]

Hmm, I never got called for a survey, even then if someone called me and wanted to discuss anything about firearms in my household and I never knew who they were, you think I'd willingly tell them anything...???

My home and my firearms and whether or not they are around loaded, un-loaded or locked up is my business and mine alone...

 

[TKO]

Found this online - if it was posted before I apologize for posting again

One in 3 US veteran firearm owners keeps a gun loaded and unlocked

After mustering out, I kept a 1911 on me at all times. My Mom
Asked me why and I explained to her in length. She understood. Her brother (my uncle was SF in '64-66) in mean green.

I took me about two years to break that habit. I still have
Arms loaded and hidden. No kids. Still sleep with a .45
I still vomit instantly at certain smells. It's something you live with.
When you train and order someone into harm's way that person
Will never get over the experience. Then you fly them home
In less than 24 hours and expect them to forget their training and experiences? Not likely.

Glad I hired on with a corporation that hired veterans before
It was brought into law. I can't tell you how many jobs I was denied because my application had prior military experience.
Sorry for the rant.
TKO

 

[User 1234]

In a home where no kids reside I think it is up to each gun owner to decide which defense posture is prudent. If kids live in a house I definitely think guns should be on the owner's person or locked up, because kids are remarkably good at finding guns.

 

[Diamondback]

In a home where no kids reside I think it is up to each gun owner to decide which defense posture is prudent. If kids live in a house I definitely think guns should be on the owner's person or locked up, because kids are remarkably good at finding guns.

That or you start teaching your kids early, like Mas Ayoob's "Gun Proof Your Kids" book, take the magic and "forbidden fruit" out of it and defang the snake.

Besides, *I* keep a 1911 ready-to-rumble other than clicking off the safety at all times, and I'm not a veteran... just somebody who well knows the kind of two-legged vermin that infest our streets.

Reading reco: William Aprill's "They Are Not You" series at Personal Defense Network, William Aprill, Author at Personal Defense Network

 

[titsonritz]

In a home where no kids reside I think it is up to each gun owner to decide which defense posture is prudent. If kids live in a house I definitely think guns should be on the owner's person or locked up, because kids are remarkably good at finding guns.

So don't hide the guns and educate the children instead.

Somehow I survived and so did my siblings and my children.

People can think what they want, I'll do as I please at my place.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Six pages and...
I still think that the gun owner should store and secure his / her firearms as they see fit ...
What works for someone in their house / situation may not work in someone else's home.

I do not want someone , who has no real idea about me , telling me what to do with my guns in my home.
Andy

 

[Diamondback]

Six pages and...
I still think that the gun owner should store and secure his / her firearms as they see fit ...
What works for someone in their house / situation may not work in someone else's home.

I do not want someone , who has no real idea about me , telling me what to do with my guns in my home.
Andy

Isn't there a biker saying about this? Something like... "Let Those Who Ride Decide"?

 

[titsonritz]

Six pages and...
I still think that the gun owner should store and secure his / her firearms as they see fit ...
What works for someone in their house / situation may not work in someone else's home.

I do not want someone , who has no real idea about me , telling me what to do with my guns in my home.
Andy

Pretty much and that goes for a lot of things not just firearms as far as I'm concerned.

I don't go around telling other people how to live and expect the same consideration in return.

 

[User 1234]

All gun owing parents need to conduct a cost-benefit analysis before leaving guns unlocked and/or loaded. I've made my kids watch the Eddie Eagle videos, taken them to the range with a 22 rifle early on, and I still would not trust them with unescorted access to a loaded gun. They are not old or mature enough to resist the urge to show them off to friends or play with them. I am not willing to take the chance that they will accidentally shoot themselves or someone else or take one to a friend's house and get me arrested. If I made a risk assessment that my chance of being burglarized was higher, I would keep a loaded gun on my person instead of leaving it loaded and unsecured.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

And that is fine for you and your home.
I applaud you for your sense of safety and parenting.

Should a gun owner store their guns safely...? Yes
That said I do not want someone who does not live in my house or not know me and my situation , tell me what is "safe" or "best" , for me in my home

I stand by my earlier statement of :
What works best in one persons home , may not be the best for someone else.

How someone teaches their kids about firearm safety , should be tailored to the kids themselves and what is best for the home and lifestyle in question.
What this looks like and entails , can and should be different , as all homes and situations are different.

Please note that I am not trying to argue with you or anyone here....
Again I think that what you have taught , is excellent , for your home....
I'm just trying to say , that others may have different needs or different , but still safe homes , with different methods of gun safety and storage.
Andy

 

[bbbass]

I've made my kids watch the Eddie Eagle videos, taken them to the range with a 22 rifle early on, and I still would not trust them with unescorted access to a loaded gun. They are not old or mature enough to resist the urge to show them off to friends or play with them. I am not willing to take the chance that they will accidentally shoot themselves or someone else or take one to a friend's house and get me arrested. If I made a risk assessment that my chance of being burglarized was higher, I would keep a loaded gun on my person instead of leaving it loaded and unsecured.

This

All gun owing parents need to conduct a cost-benefit analysis before leaving guns unlocked and/or loaded.

Not this

MYOB

 

[User 1234]

Everyone can do what they want, and I don't want the government telling parents how to raise their kids or organize their life. I just have my opinion as to how I see the situation.

 

[slimmer13]

Everyone can do what they want, and I don't want the government telling parents how to raise their kids or organize their life. I just have my opinion as to how I see the situation.

Fair enough. That's all anyone except statists wants.

 

[Mephistopheles]

Got in on this late, so if already covered apologies. Read some time ago by several different articles, no I don't have those articles, that in the Vietnam War 1 in 15 were actually out in the bush ducking AK rounds. The other 14 were rear area support. The number for WW2 was something like 1 in 16. I am not saying the rear area didn't get their share of pucker factor attacks (rockets, artillery, mortar fire), but at a young age being conditioned that every step you take you are dependent on a loaded weapon to get your rear out of the ringer. Having a loaded weapon in every room of the house sounds logical.