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Old Non Refillable Propane Tanks

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by jbett98, Nov 13, 2011.

  1. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Lowes building supply stores will exchange your old rusty outdated non-refillable 5 gallon or smaller propane tanks, with a new filled Blue Rhino one for under $18.00.
    This tank exchange (new for old) by Blue Rhino is only honored at Lowes stores.
     
  2. A.I.P.

    A.I.P. UpperUS Active Member

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    I know some PPL that unscrew the valve and use the tanks for targets, but this is a good deal!
     
  3. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I was walking out of Lowes and saw the Blue Rhino truck driver loading up a couple of rusty out of service bottles into his truck. He told me that Lowes does such a high volume with them that they swap out junkers for new, just to get new customers. A new filled bottle costs over $45.00 if you don't have an exchange.
     
  4. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    *ahem* a few years back I posted an ad on craigslist for old propane bottles. Picked up 35 for $60 total...and have been cycling them through the Blue Rhino kiosks every so often. Because you have to use your credit card I kept my eye out for a charge back but not one ever appeared.

    And 35 5gal tanks takes up a TON of room. Ugh.
     
  5. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    What year is your crewcab? Looks Like a '72...? Beautiful. Had I been able to find a nice, early crewcab like this when I was younger I never would have parted with it. Good job.

    Keith
     
  6. mccullogh

    mccullogh NW Oregon Member

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    At one time Blue Rhino was using a special valve that prevented many places from refilling them. They had a triangular indentation on the body of the valve that required a specially ground magnet to release a ball that blocked refilling. You can make one if you get any of these valves but it is a good thing to know ahead of time.

    I do not know what their current practice is so just an FYI
     
  7. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Problem is that they are NOT "filled", they only contain about 3.57 gallons of propane, not the full 5 gallons. This is NOT due to the expansion room required, it's so they can charge less but you get less also. Propane weighs 4.2# per gallon.

     
  8. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    Direct word from them is that 'some got it, some don't.' Rather annoying I'd say.
     
  9. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

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    This "short fill" isn't just happening with Propane, look at your cereal box, fruit and vegetable cans, and just about anything else that's sold "by the container" rather than by the "unit".

    If it wasn't for the short fill, the Blue Rhino program wouldn't be such a bad deal. No more worries about having a tank that has a current inspection date, the proper valve, or any flaws that prevent it from being refilled.
     
  10. Thebastidge

    Thebastidge 10411 NE Fourth Plain Blvd Vancouver WA 98662 Well-Known Member

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    You might want to look into building or purchasing your own adapter kits. I have an adapter that loows me to connect a 5 gallon propane bottle in place ot the little 1 liter jobs. With some care and some plumbing, you can refill the 1 liter bottles. They are marked non-refillable, but that's lowest common denominator regulation, not practical necessity or extreme danger. I'd rather trade a couple 1 liter bottles than a larger tank, if it came to that.

    To refill from a large tank, like in a gas station with no power, you need a pump for liquid propane. You need to be pretty careful about grounding and using the proper style of pumps for flammable liquids too.

    Farm-scale methane production is a part of my longer term bug-in strategy.
     
  11. bruzer

    bruzer Grants Pass, OR Well-Known Member

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    Old style propane tanks make good air tanks once you get them cleaned out. You might smell like rotten eggs for a few days if your not careful.
    Mike
     
  12. Izzy

    Izzy Oakridge Active Member

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    They also make a great smelting pot for you bullet casters!

    CAUTION: MAKE CERTAIN, THE TANK IS COMPLETELY EMPTY!!!!!!! Cut the top off (to the height you desire), & you now have a heavy duty, inexpensive, smelting pot for large quantities of lead.
     
  13. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they do. However, I'd limit my compressed air pressure to about 150psi as a maximum.
     
  14. 19 Adam

    19 Adam rural Clackamas County, Oregon Active Member

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    Your propane provider, or a propane service company, can install a fill valve on your large home propane tank so you can fill your 5 gallon tanks yourself. This requires no pump or power and is a pressure fill valve. We have been filling our own BBQ and RV tanks for years.

    Check with Suburban Propane, they did ours originally and our current provider added one when we bought our new tank as part of the deal.