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Oklahoma Governor Signs Bill Banning Red Flag Laws
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There has been a correction. The bill passed the legislature but has not been signed into law yet.
This kind of rights supporting thinking has me considering Oklahoma as a possible home for the first time ever. Still don't think I would do it, but certainly the first time I've wondered what real estate prices are like there.
I grew up there. Constitutional carry. Crazy cheap cost of living. Great salaries depending on your industry. Friendly, genuine people. Hunting is big. Great restaurants and events depending on your preferences. Not sure I could leave the natural resources of the PNW but it's NOT exactly like Twister. I lived there 30 years and "experienced" only one tornado. But it's not unlike Twister either. They're very real and very destructive but there are areas of the state where they're less commonThere has been a correction. The bill passed the legislature but has not been signed into law yet.
This kind of rights supporting thinking has me considering Oklahoma as a possible home for the first time ever. Still don't think I would do it, but certainly the first time I've wondered what real estate prices are like there.
but there are areas of the state where they're less common
Please don't fear-monger if you have no personal experience to share. I lived in the Oklahoma City area from 1971-1997 and then again from 2011-2014, 29 years total. Yes Moore, Oklahoma has been hit twice in modern history by major storms that produced very destructive tornadoes, with significant loss of property and life. However that is an anomaly. There is no way to predict that tornadoes will strike a certain part of a state with greater frequency. Evidence is anecdotal only and with severe weather it is only predictable within a very short time frame. Oklahoma has it's downsides, but Oklahoma natives are, for the most part, genuine and friendly folk. As was mentioned, real estate prices are generally some of the lowest in the country, but jobs seem to be always plentiful except during oil industry crashes (again, rare). It is a decent place to live, and the politics are agreeable to those with a conservative bias. What you give up compared to Oregon is more extreme weather (both cold and hot), severe spring and early summer storms that can produce wind, large hail and tornadoes, and a more rustic, less beautiful landscape (in the eye of the beholder obviously).True, but the warning applies because the poster did not specify where in OK he wanted to be...
My SIL lives in NW Ark and was an EMT for many years. He worked the Moore OK tornado and several other OK tornado sites... Those were hugely/immensively destructive with loss of lives and property. it's not like it's uncommon! And hasn't Moore been hit a number of times? But it's interesting that my Bentonville Ark seems to be a tornado shadow... they go either north or south around their area. Might be able to find something like that in OK.
No twisters in OR. Just sayin'.
This kind of rights supporting thinking has me considering Oklahoma as a possible home for the first time ever. Still don't think I would do it, but certainly the first time I've wondered what real estate prices are like there.
What you give up compared to Oregon is more extreme weather (both cold and hot), severe spring and early summer storms that can produce wind, large hail and tornadoes, and a more rustic, less beautiful landscape (in the eye of the beholder obviously).
Not true. While they are not as frequent or severe as Tornado Ally they do indeed occur in Oregon.
6 tornadoes that touched down in the Pacific Northwest
Not true. While they are not as frequent or severe as Tornado Ally they do indeed occur in Oregon.
6 tornadoes that touched down in the Pacific Northwest
I should have used a smiley.
I meant it like I meant there are no conservatives in Oregon.
Please don't fear-monger if you have no personal experience to share. I lived in the Oklahoma City area from 1971-1997 and then again from 2011-2014, 29 years total. Yes Moore, Oklahoma has been hit twice in modern history by major storms that produced very destructive tornadoes, with significant loss of property and life. However that is an anomaly. There is no way to predict that tornadoes will strike a certain part of a state with greater frequency. Evidence is anecdotal only and with severe weather it is only predictable within a very short time frame. Oklahoma has it's downsides, but Oklahoma natives are, for the most part, genuine and friendly folk. As was mentioned, real estate prices are generally some of the lowest in the country, but jobs seem to be always plentiful except during oil industry crashes (again, rare). It is a decent place to live, and the politics are agreeable to those with a conservative bias. What you give up compared to Oregon is more extreme weather (both cold and hot), severe spring and early summer storms that can produce wind, large hail and tornadoes, and a more rustic, less beautiful landscape (in the eye of the beholder obviously).
OK I will own the fact that I got a little defensive of the state that I consider "home". However, it's like when people say, "Don't they have lots of Indians in Oklahoma that you need to be afraid of..." Nobody gets scalped. Very few people will experience a tornado first hand even if living in Oklahoma their entire life...it's all a matter of probability. Yes, you are obviously correct that the Midwest receives more than their fair share of severe weather and tornadoes due to the prevailing climate and geography. I was under the apparent misconception that you were suggesting that by living, say within a certain 150 mile radius versus another small area that one was more likely to get swept away by repetitive tornadoes. You do have about 8 more years living experience than I do, but I don't really think that matters. With 30 years in central and NE Oklahoma, I was never once swept away by a tornado...true story!Alrighty then. I've never been in a fatal car crash while driving drunk on a winding road at 150mph either. Should I not warn somebody that there is a high possibility of injury or death during a discussion that features a plan or thoughts to do such things? Is that fear-mongering too? I'll answer... of course not! Personal experience has no bearing on the subject.
But to use your own logic, I'll continue to give out the warning due to the personal experiences of close friends and relatives that live, work, and have answered the call for assistance/help for weeks away from home as EMTs during a tornado disaster/tragedy. And due to living on earth for 67yrs and being aware that the middle states are a kind of tornado alley where cold fronts meet wet/hot/humid fronts and violent weather occurs on a regular basis. It's a fact that you cannot deny.
Please don't be so sensitive/defensive... I wasn't attacking or badmouthing your state. But the facts are, that they have tornadoes (sp?) there and not in other states that are just as nice to live. Note that I didn't attack the people, the politics, the real estate, the fishing or hunting, the music stars, or anything else but gave a warning about the frequency of tornadoes. Tho I'm curious as to why the movie "Twister" is not a good example when I've watched 100 dozen stormchaser vids that seemed not much diff exept for the silliness of surviving in a wellhouse or whatever it was. I did NOT say don't move there. Would YOU say "Yeah, move there, it's great, nothing to worry about there, shoot they don't even have water moccasins!" Shhhh, let's not mention tornadoes... ever!!!
My kids say that there has only ever been one tornado that hit Bentonville despite living in a tornado prone area and tornadoes traveling in close proximity quite often, nobody knows why they don't get hit, but they don't... are you suggesting that they are lying, incorrect, and that places like that don't exist?... Despite being unable to accurately predict when and where tornadoes will happen, surely there must be places in OK that statistically have less tornado activity over time... that is ALL I was suggesting with that commentary. If there is not such places, fine... then all of OK is dangerous with no exception.
The PNW has very few tornadoes by comparison. As does Cali, New Mexico, AZ, Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and on and on. And for the most part they all have nice people too. Please let the poster make an informed decision. For instance, if someone wanted to move to Cali, there are about 10 million warnings I would give. Pretty much the same for Oregon and Washington... that doesn't mean that I would say there aren't nice people there.
Lighten up. It was mostly a joke with the "Twister" reference, and as with the best humor, it has/had a bit of truth in it.
You do have about 8 more years living experience than I do, but I don't really think that matters.
With 30 years in central and NE Oklahoma, I was never once swept away by a tornado...true story!
it's like when people say, "Don't they have lots of Indians in Oklahoma that you need to be afraid of..." Nobody gets scalped.