Ohio officer did his best according to neighbor

[bbbass]

But we have law enforcement, courts and juries that will decide each case on the merits.

Law enforcement doesn't decide cases.

If you mean the Justice Dept, the DA's decide whether or not to file charges. And it's too often a political exercise. IMO DA's have too much latitude and bring charges when they shouldn't, or fail to bring charges when they should. I'd get rid of Mike Schmidt in a heartbeat, but voters in his area suck.

Do courts and juries decide each case on it's merits? Or do they decide who had the best lawyer???

 

[bbbass]

I'll just leave this here:

https://www.breitbart.com/social-ju...nal-justice-system-after-floyd-bryant-deaths/

Well now aint she a real abolitionist?

 

[Ridge Walker]

Is the Stepfather gonna get charged for that attempted field goal with a teenager's head or what?

Maybe it's just an example of 'Hood Privilege' at work. Anybody with more hood cred know what's up with that?

 

[RVTECH]

Anybody with more hood cred know what's up with that?

Hey no 'hood cred' here but I suspect in the confusion it was overlooked, forgotten about.

Maybe they didn't want to compound the issue so they let it go.

 

[STEELE]

Every case is different. This looks like a valid use of force. Chauvin's case was not a valid use of force.

But we have law enforcement, courts and juries that will decide each case on the merits.

Don't forget the "merits" as decided immediately by the Press and the mob!

 

[STEELE]

Don't forget the "merits" as decided immediately by the Press and the mob! Did I see that man use an "assault shoe" on the head of the downed girl?

 

[Flopsweat]

I'll just leave this here:

https://www.breitbart.com/social-ju...nal-justice-system-after-floyd-bryant-deaths/

Well now aint she a real abolitionist?

Yeah, she's right on the ball. Body cam video shows that Chauvin's knee was on the shoulder blade not the neck, the medical report showed a lethal dose of fentanyl (plus methamphetamine) in Floyd's system at the time of testing (fentanyl breaks down very quickly) and Macadamia or whatever her name was, was stopped while swinging a knife at someone after issuing a threat to stab her. And abolishing law enforcement? That makes her 0 and 3 for the day.

 

[jrd541280]

i am a recipient of the "shoot in the air" theory. it really hurts.

 

[revjen45]

"But we have law enforcement, courts and juries that will decide each case on the merits."

Well, that's what it's supposed to be, not what it is.
With all the mob violence and threats to destroy anyrybody who didn't support lynching Chauvin in the street, the result was railroading of the guilty.
Was Chauvin a belligerent jerk who abused power and had no regard for George Floyd's life?
Yup. He should never have been entrusted with such power.
Was it a fair trial considering publick threats to get any juror who didn't vote to convict on every count?
Nope.
The whole trial farce was Kabuki Theater to mollify the mob in the hope of avoiding an orgy of Burn, Loot, Murder.
The jurors knew that anything other than guilty on all counts would destroy their lives and their families' lives. They would never get a job again and would be targets for Woke Mob vengeance for as long as they live.
So Chauvin got what he probably deserved, but through a thoroughly corrupt proceeding.
From now on, anybody who shoots a BIPOC in self defense can expect to be excoriated in the Lamestream Media and railroaded in the Reichs gericht as a White Supremacist.

 

[bkroger86]

The jurors knew that anything other than guilty on all counts would destroy their lives and their families' lives. They would never get a job again and would be targets for Woke Mob vengeance for as long as they live.

If you were on the jury, is that how you would have made your decision?

 

[arentol72]

Yeah, she's right on the ball. Body cam video shows that Chauvin's knee was on the shoulder blade not the neck, the medical report showed a lethal dose of fentanyl (plus methamphetamine) in Floyd's system at the time of testing (fentanyl breaks down very quickly) and Macadamia or whatever her name was, was stopped while swinging a knife at someone after issuing a threat to stab her. And abolishing law enforcement? That makes her 0 and 3 for the day.

Body cam video also shows that Chauvin's knee was on the neck, not the shoulder blade. Took literally a second to find images of this, and only a minute to find good video. The evidence apparently was that his knee was on Mr. Floyd's neck for about 2 minutes. Depending on health as little as 60 seconds can be sufficient to kill a person. Also, any time the knee was on the back AFTER Mr. Floyd was dead is irrelevant. Lets assume that 6:46 minutes of the 8:46 was on the back... So what? If at any time over 90 seconds was continually on the neck that is definitely sufficient to kill most people, especially if, when the knee was moved, it went to the shoulder, where it continued to restrict breathing through pressure on the diaphragm, ensuring that even if a bit of life was left insufficient air to restore brain function was available, and the brain continued to die until no hope of recovery was possible.

As to fentanyl, the medical examiner determined the cause of death was asphyxiation based on damage to the brain that is only caused by such a death (under these circumstances). The fentanyl level in his blood was measured over a half-dozen times immediately after he was taken to the hospital and the fentanyl level was not lethal, and the levels of the chemical that fentanyl breaks down to in the blood were measured and found to be relatively low as well. So he never had a fatal amount in his system. (Caveat on this, technically someone with a bad heart condition could die from this amount of fentanyl, but the vast majority of people would never die from this amount. So while it is lethal for some tiny value of the word "lethal", that doesn't apply to this case. Especially since he died of asphyxiation.)

In addition there is the failure to render aid and the decision to disallow available aid to be rendered. Mr. Floyd was unconscious for a couple minutes at least before Officer Chauvin removed his knee. If he had removed it immediately upon Mr. Floyd going unconscious and allowed medical personnel to do their job then Mr. Floyd likely would have survived. In that situation it really doesn't matter what the cause of death was, because as soon as he passed out the Officer Chauvin, blocked aid long enough to ensure that there was no hope of saving Mr. Floyd's life. If a person collapsed on the street of natural causes and a civilian held paramedics at bay with a firearm until the person was beyond hope of aid and died, they would be charged with murder. A paramedic in this case tried to render aid when she saw he was dead or dying and Officer Chauvin stopped her. That is not materially different, you do not get to use force or authority to block medical professionals from rendering aid to an injured person then get to claim innocence when they die.

I agree however that this person in the article is off their rocker. People that use situations like this defense of a stabbing victim to further their cause when it was 100% clearly justified are idiots. You need to only back the clear cases like Mr. Floyd, you loose all credibility and make your cause a farce when you try to claim the police are in the wrong for justified and appropriate situations like this defense of a person being stabbed... And that is not counting that you need to come up with a real solution not "Just throw the whole thing away but I don't have a better solution."

 

[Flopsweat]

Body cam video also shows that Chauvin's knee was on the neck, not the shoulder blade. Took literally a second to find images of this, and only a minute to find good video. The evidence apparently was that his knee was on Mr. Floyd's neck for about 2 minutes. Depending on health as little as 60 seconds can be sufficient to kill a person. Also, any time the knee was on the back AFTER Mr. Floyd was dead is irrelevant. Lets assume that 6:46 minutes of the 8:46 was on the back... So what? If at any time over 90 seconds was continually on the neck that is definitely sufficient to kill most people, especially if, when the knee was moved, it went to the shoulder, where it continued to restrict breathing through pressure on the diaphragm, ensuring that even if a bit of life was left insufficient air to restore brain function was available, and the brain continued to die until no hope of recovery was possible.

As to fentanyl, the medical examiner determined the cause of death was asphyxiation based on damage to the brain that is only caused by such a death (under these circumstances). The fentanyl level in his blood was measured over a half-dozen times immediately after he was taken to the hospital and the fentanyl level was not lethal, and the levels of the chemical that fentanyl breaks down to in the blood were measured and found to be relatively low as well. So he never had a fatal amount in his system. (Caveat on this, technically someone with a bad heart condition could die from this amount of fentanyl, but the vast majority of people would never die from this amount. So while it is lethal for some tiny value of the word "lethal", that doesn't apply to this case. Especially since he died of asphyxiation.)

In addition there is the failure to render aid and the decision to disallow available aid to be rendered. Mr. Floyd was unconscious for a couple minutes at least before Officer Chauvin removed his knee. If he had removed it immediately upon Mr. Floyd going unconscious and allowed medical personnel to do their job then Mr. Floyd likely would have survived. In that situation it really doesn't matter what the cause of death was, because as soon as he passed out the Officer Chauvin, blocked aid long enough to ensure that there was no hope of saving Mr. Floyd's life. If a person collapsed on the street of natural causes and a civilian held paramedics at bay with a firearm until the person was beyond hope of aid and died, they would be charged with murder. A paramedic in this case tried to render aid when she saw he was dead or dying and Officer Chauvin stopped her. That is not materially different, you do not get to use force or authority to block medical professionals from rendering aid to an injured person then get to claim innocence when they die.

I agree however that this person in the article is off their rocker. People that use situations like this defense of a stabbing victim to further their cause when it was 100% clearly justified are idiots. You need to only back the clear cases like Mr. Floyd, you loose all credibility and make your cause a farce when you try to claim the police are in the wrong for justified and appropriate situations like this defense of a person being stabbed... And that is not counting that you need to come up with a real solution not "Just throw the whole thing away but I don't have a better solution."

If we go by CDC guidelines he died of COVID.