Off Topic question for you older folks.

[Just Jim]

Just reading oregon is pushing a new tax on driver mileage...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3265928/posts

It's this kind of over taxation that brings on militias.

 

[Just Jim]

Yeah but in 1991 I was making 3.25 per hour. I worked at Safeway.

1974 I was making $5.25 in construction.

 

[U201491]

Yeah but in 1991 I was making 3.25 per hour. I worked at Safeway.

My first job was at about age 10 to 12 setting pins at a bowling alley for 2 bits an hr. Then when it went to .10 a set I was rich. Then got a job hauling hay for a dairy for .60 an hr but worked full days. Got fed like a king Then tried the berry and bean fields. Found that I could make more money catching carp for Tony's fish market in OC and did that almost all summer for 3 or 4 yrs. Then came the real money. Catching rattlers for a lab to make anti snake bite serum. Had a dog that sniffed em out in the deschutes canyon and got $25 each for them ... damn... Bonnie & Clyde never made that mucg money. They paid that much even for the babies. We found nests up in the rimrocks full of them. I always made my cousin hold the gunnybag LOL.
THE term we used for the wealth we made probably should not be stated here
Now
They stopped buying snakes and began synthesising it
All the fun ways to make $$ seems like they went away.

 

[U201491]

Anyway.... sorry for getting off course here...
A fun thread though.

 

[RicInOR]

@mrblond

I suggest the writings of Col. Cooper.
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Starts in 1993 - Clinton just elected.

 

[Slobray]

Yeah but in 1991 I was making 3.25 per hour. I worked at Safeway.

In 1983 I made $50 a day in construction in Las Vegas and $3.35 an hour pumping gas in Silverton.


You were getting robbed.....

The minimum wage was raised to $3.80 an hour beginning April 1, 1990, and to $4.25 an hour beginning April 1, 1991. The amendments also established a training wage provision (at 85% of the minimum wage, but not less than $3.35 an hour) for employees under the age of twenty, a provision that expired in 1993.

Ray

 

[Just Jim]

Didn't really hear much out of the militia movement unless someone involved with them died in a shootout or got caught doing a crime. They grew at a rapid pace with crap like Ruby Ridge then really grew after Waco. They did manage to kill militias after McVeigh blew up a building in Oklahoma City. Came up with state and federal laws to go after militias and the bombing got Clinton re-elected. Anyone that stayed in a militia went underground in my opinion cause government used the bombing to make em all look like terrorist.

 

[U201491]

Militias are spelled out in the U.S. Constitution and are not evil entities to anyone except left wingers, socialists/marxist/communist/scum that have a goal of subverting the USA and harming all it stands for. It is really that simple. The groups that people call militias (label of the left) put on anyone in America that loves the country. McVey and people that do evil are not the militia. They are gangs. The kkk is not a militia, they are a gang/klan and NOT a militia.
The militia is every American that is armed and loyal to the nation and the Constitution. The leftist scum likes to use labels to do harm to anyone that does not cowtau to their sick thinking. They are the equivalent of evil gangs out to destroy and re-form free societies. They are control freaks without real intelligence of what freedom is and do not want anyone to have it. The description of the slime mold called leftist liberal can go on forever, but it all says the same thing. They are evil in camo and nation destroyers. A creeping cancer that has infected America.

 

[Just Jim]

I think all men between 18 and 50 are considered militia. Title 10 or something like that spells out who is declared militia in time of emergency...

 

[U201491]

I think all men between 18 and 50 are considered militia. Title 10 or something like that spells out who is declared militia in time of emergency...

The only ones that will fight are probably older than that.
With a few exceptions the rest are sedated by apathy and gov freebies and lubricants :/\/

 

[albin25]

"Yeah, but in 1991 I was making 3.25 per hour. I worked at Safeway."

looked up 1991 prices
(your mileage and sources may vary 'cuz they're based on Nat'l avg's. and anecdotal comments found in a quick Google search)
gas 1.14/ gal
cigs 1.91/pack
22lr $.75/box
ground beef (80%) 1.10/lb

So then, If you were now making $9,75 / hour at Safeway
shouldn't gas be...$3.42 per gallon
and cigs be........ $5.73 a pack
22lr maybe.... $2.25 a box
and local ground round.... $3.30/lb

+ Gas wasn't too far off that before the prices took a weird tumble, but will be back there soon.
+ My last weekly pack of cigs I bought was 3.95 (but I'm in Idaho, and also maybe a nearby reservation keeps local prices low??)
+ Last Blazer 500 brick (10 boxes) I bought (2 months ago Sportsman's Warehouse $23.75 ( that's $2.38/box).
+ Last time I bought ground beef (Costco 10lb. chub 80%) $3.95/lb

Gas today is watered down with subsidized ethanol though, and taxed higher.
Ground beef seems to have more water in it.
Retail 22lr is hard to find.
Cigs will still kill you though (and they tax 'em higher to compensate the gov because fewer people are dumb enough to still smoke a lot)


Ya I know...kinda off topic. But hey! I'm an "older folks"...
...So I can't remember what the heck the darn topic was .

 

[Sstrand]

The younger generation is as happy as a fat calf if they have a beer, a hot tube, and a TV . . . BUT, one of these days, just like the fat calf they will walk through the wrong door.

Sheldon

 

[CoastRange57]

1) A lot of people then (and still today) did not understand the criteria for the "militia"; it is basically every able bodied adult in the USA (technically it is every able bodied adult male between certain ages). So there is already a "militia" and pretty much, you are it. No need, on that basis, to form a "militia" - it already exists.

You could also call it every veteran alive from Vietnam on though our current engagements in the Middle East. This later generation of veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 12 years is probably one of the best trained and self armed ones there is. Additionally ones as myself who never served but feel a pretty strong pull to protect our country and Constitution who have also trained and armed themselves constitute not a militia, but a well armed and trained populace, the very thing the Second Amendment address's.

 

[elsie]

I vaguely recall something about the Michigan Militia.

But I have no concept of time. That could have been the 60s or the 90s.


elsie

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

I remember, back in the 90's there was a very large and well known Militia movement. WHat was the cause of this?

Was it the 1994 AWB ? or was it something else that happened ?

I don't recall alot of the 90's political wise. I know movies, music but I don't recall a lot else.

Here's a movie from 1983 that poked fun of Militias. The movie was loosely based on something in the news at the time I'm sure. Good luck on your history quest.
"THE SURVIVORS"

 

[Mark W.]

Gas = 9.9 a gallon
Cigs = .10 a pack
22LR = .15 a box
Local ground round = 3.99 for 10# half that on sale.

What century was that Taku?

When I started pumping gas in 1977 it was 69.9 to 89.9 a gallon
When I was in college 76-77 a pack of ciggs was close to $2.00
When I was in grade school 1972 and earlier a box of 50) 22LR was $.59-.69 cents
As to the burger No idea I was to young to buy anything but a Coke, snickers and an Ice cream sandwich for after softball practice in 6th grade for a Quarter. Had to drink the coke on site as the deposit was a dime.

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

All right mrblonde you got my curiosity up so I did a little googling and came up with this guy that was big in the News in 83. Before Ruby Ridge and Waco. Interesting subject BTW!

 

[Jamie6.5]

The younger generation is as happy as a fat calf if they have a beer, a hot tube, and a TV . . . BUT, one of these days, just like the fat calf they will walk through the wrong door.

Sheldon

Yup.
For the first time in recorded history, we have created a society and a government where there are a significant number of people that are classified as "poor," and "underprivileged," yet "obese," "overweight" or "fat" at the same time.

A friend has this as a part of his sig line on a different forum:

"I want to live in a country where the poor people are fat." Spoken by a "skin-and-bones" Indian beggar speaking of wanting to live in America.

Think about that one for awhile.

 

[U201491]

What century was that Taku?

When I started pumping gas in 1977 it was 69.9 to 89.9 a gallon
When I was in college 76-77 a pack of ciggs was close to $2.00
When I was in grade school 1972 and earlier a box of 50) 22LR was $.59-.69 cents
As to the burger No idea I was to young to buy anything but a Coke, snickers and an Ice cream sandwich for after softball practice in 6th grade for a Quarter. Had to drink the coke on site as the deposit was a dime.

ROFLOL
There was hamburger wars too. 13 cents to 19 cents for a decent burger. Roller skating car hops, and a just plain different time in America. I miss it.
It was the 50's and some actually into the 60's
Also for about a dollar and a half, I got a Burger basket, and milkshake and a movie ticket for the Friday night or sat matinee and popcorn and soda and some candy..................Mid 50's

 

[The Heretic]

I can remember gas for 25 cents, and a loaf of cheap bread for 35 cents.

However, I also remember that at the time, I was paid anywhere from a $1.50 to $3 per hour. I considered anything over $3 per hour when I could get it, and I was unemployed about 50% of the time. Anybody I knew that made $8+ I was very jealous of.

I make considerably more now. Food and gas are fairly small percentages of my take home pay. More importantly, I haven't been unemployed in almost 4 years and I have enough to survive on (barely) for years if I was laid off.