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  1. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    More Gun Bills
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    06.01.15

    Today the Senate Judiciary Committee passed HB 3093 and HB 2357.

    HB 3093 is a limited “reciprocity”bill sponsored by Bill Post. HB 2357 is a bill that gives retired police the same protections when carrying concealed that CHL holders have.

    Both bills are limited in scope and were amended with pointless changes, but both are a step forward. To no one’s surprise, Ginny Burdick voted against HB 3093. She also insisted on, and got, amendments to HB 2357 that basically say, if a retired cop is a criminal he can’t carry a firearm. Ludicrous? Yes, but that’s how they roll in Salem. These bills now move to the Senate floor having both passed in the House.

    The House Judiciary Committee heard and passed SB 525. This is a “domestic violence” bill that serves exactly no purpose. It has had the worst provisions removed but is one more bill promoted by lies. Supporter after supporter provided testimony with the exact same talking points and the lie that Oregon police may not enforce the Federal law this bill copies. Even our top lawyer, Attorney General Rosenblum, repeated this nonsense. Her ignorance of the law is breathtaking and she would like to be our next Governor.

    House Reps Bill Post and Sherrie Sprenger courageously voted no.

    The House Committee also passed SB 173, a fairly nonsensical bill, but did amend it to remove the most offensive and unconstitutional language.

    Current law says if you are in a public building you must allow a police officer to inspect a firearm you are carrying to determine if it is loaded.

    This makes no sense. If you have a CHL, you may carry a loaded firearm. If you don’t have a CHL, you may not carry a firearm loaded or not, so what purpose does this serve? The bill would have allowed you to show a CHL instead of handing over a loaded gun in a public place but would have made you a criminal if you did NOT show a CHL. This was absurd. You become a criminal because you did not show ID even though you are not suspected of a crime? The bill was amended to remove that provision, so now there is no criminal penalty for not showing a CHL. The current law should simply be repealed, but this was a big improvement.

    Tomorrow the House Judiciary Committee is scheduled to hold work sessions on two bills it held over from today. SB 913, the ban on privately owned ivory and SB 315. 315 is another bill that should never have seen the light of day but now promises to get far worse. The intent is to use the bill to further complicate the universal background check bill. The proposed amendments are bizarre. There is no guarantee that either of these bills will actually move tomorrow, but we’ll be watching them.

    Tomorrow, Lane County will be voting on a resolution to refuse to expend county funds to enforce SB 941, the universal gun owner registration bill. The anti-gun crazies are already mounting an effort to derail the resolution. Please send the commissioners a note saying “Stand for liberty and support a resolution opposing SB 941.” You can contact the commission here.

    On Wednesday night, the Canby City Council will be voting on a similar measure. If you live in or near Canby, please come and make your voice heard in support. The Council meets in City Hall at 7.30 PM
     
  2. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Senator Ginny referenced above has pizza dough for brains not unlike her peers.
     
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  3. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    2-ozs of pizza dough for brains and 250-lbs of chewed up bubblegum for a body... sure makes for a funky fence post! :rolleyes:
     
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  4. BoonDocks36

    BoonDocks36 Oregon, in the boondocks Christian. Conservative. Male.

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    I do believe she would not even make a good post for a Post Turtle!

    philip:cool:
     
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    Deebow Portland Well-Known Member

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  6. John Gault

    John Gault clackamas county Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Donated to OFF today..
     
  7. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The Bill has already past the Senate, and now just needs to be past by the House.

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  8. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Notice the lie in the story? They say internet sales could avoid a BGC. In reality ONLY in STATE sales could avoid a BGC so just like any private sale.
     
  9. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    HB 3093A is dangerously close to being passed. Please call NOW and ask your State Senator to vote NO on HB 3093A.



    HB 3093A would permit gun owners from other states to carry concealed, loaded guns in Oregon if the other state allows Oregon residents to do the same in their state. The bill further stipulates that the other state's concealed carry standards and training must be equivalent to or better than Oregon's. This concept is called concealed handgun license (CHL) reciprocity.

    Why is HB 3093A a bad bill?

    • Oregon's training requirements are very weak. An applicant for a concealed handgun license in Oregon doesn't even need to touch a gun to receive an Oregon CHL. Therefore, additional, poorly-trained people will be allowed to carry loaded, hidden guns in our state.
    • Law enforcement opposes reciprocity because it puts police at higher risk for shootings. (Prosecutors Against Gun Violence)
    • HB 3093A is an orchestrated campaign by the gun lobby to weaken reciprocity laws state-by-state with the goal of subjugating states' rights and instituting nationally-mandated reciprocity.




    What you need to do:

    1. Click on this link to find your STATE SENATOR (not Senator Wyden or Senator Merkley).

    2. Locate your State Senator's email address or phone number.

    3. Call or email your Senator with this message: "Please vote NO on HB 3093A.Oregon's CHL training laws are very weak. We don't need out-of-state CHL holders bringing loaded, hidden guns into our state placing an additional burden on police and putting us all at increased risk for gunshot injury and death."





    4. Pass this email on to your family members and friends!

    Please call NOW and ask your State Senator to vote NO on HB 3093A.





    CHL reciprocity is a complex subject. If you need help, email Ceasefire Oregon at ceasefireoregon@gmail.com.

    For additional information about our opposition to HB 3093A and reciprocity, visit the Ceasefire Oregon website.







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  10. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Geeze, once they ramrod bad legislation (anti-gun bills) they will pick up speed and snowball their agenda at all costs!!!
    Politicians don't represent all of their constituency, only the ones who believe the MSM BS.:mad::mad::mad:
     
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  11. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Ceasefire Oregon is a member organization of States United to Prevent Gun Violence, publishers of CeasfireUSA: The GVP Report
    CeasefireUSA: The GVP Report - June 9, 2015

    Oregon State News
    Concealed handgun license reciprocity vote is expected to be held on Thursday. Call your state senator nowand say "Vote NO on HB 3093." Find more information onour website.

    As of June 9, sixty-nine cases of gang-related violencehave been, or actively are, being investigated by the Portland Police Bureau in 2015 alone. As of June 9, 2014, fifty-six cases were assigned. Violence needs to be treated as a public health concern--because that's what it is. Find out more at Portland's Office ofYouth Violence Prevention and through the video "Post Traumatic Streets Disorder."



    Breaking News! Oregon SB 525 cleared the House on June 9on a bipartisan vote of 51 to 8. The bill now heads to Governor Brown's desk. She is expected to sign the bill into law. SB 525 provides law enforcement with better authority to take guns out of the hands of domestic abusers. In Oregon, approximately 60% of domestic violence deaths result from the use of a firearm. SB 525 will make our communities safer.

    In The News
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    New research published inAmerican Journal of Preventive Medicine,Two years after Newtown - Public opinion on gun policy revisited,by Colleen Barry, PhD, MPP, et al, finds thata large majority of Americans - including gun owners - continue to support strengthening gun laws. 85 percent of gun owners and 83 percent of non-owners support universal background checks.

    U.S. Supreme Court rejects NRA challenge to San Francisco gun laws.The court let stand rulings in favor of a city measure that requires handgun owners to secure weapons in their homes and an ordinance that bans the sale of hollow-point bullets.

    South Carolina Governor Nikki Haleysigned into law a bill that strengthens penalties for domestic abusers andsets new restrictions on gun possession for domestic violence offenders, including a lifetime gun ban for the most severe crimes.

    Michigan judge backs Grand Rapids police in open-carry lawsuit.The judge ruled that the police officer acted lawfully when he stopped a man openly carrying a holstered firearm and that the Plaintiff's behavior was "consistent with tactical preparedness for unlawful purposes."

    ► A new study inPreventive Medicine,Alcohol misuse, firearm violence perpetration, and public policy in the U.S., Garen Wintemute, MD, finds that restricting access to firearms for people who misuse alcohol could prevent firearm violence.

    Fatal police shootings in 2015 approaching 400 nationwide.About half the victims were white, half minority. Among unarmed victims, two-thirds were black or Hispanic. Overall, blacks were killed at three tie the rate of whites or other minorities.

    Self-defense or illegal homicide? Is Stand Your Ground/Shoot First evolving?Verdict by verdict, cases are educating US gun owners on the limits of the law and clarifying that the laws rarely protect people who willingly put themselves into potentially dangerous situations, and then open fire.

    ► President Barack Obama, Senator Elizabeth Warren and actress Julianne Moore were some of the ten of thousands of people who were#WearingOrange on National Gun Violence Awareness Day.

    ► Miami New Times,Eight Months After Mass Shooting at the Spot Nightclub, Liberty City Grapples With Fallout.The Sept. 27, 2014 violence was the largest mass shooting in Miami in decades. More than eight months later, many questions remain.

    TAKE ACTION
    Recently, the House of Representatives approved their version of the Commerce Justice, and Science Appropriations Act for 2016. The bill contains a number of dangerous "gun riders." The bill now heads to the Senate. Please, take a moment and call your member of the Senate Appropriations Committee and ask them toNOTinclude these bad gun riders in the Senate CJS Appropriations bill.



    Community Support
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    HBO Documentary Film,Requiem for the Dead: American Spring 2014, premiering June 22nd, tells the story of those who have been killed by gunfire, whether by homicide, unintentional or suicide. Stories are told with images from social media, frantic 911 calls, police reports and videos.

    David McGrath,op-ed, Chicago Tribune,NRA version of 2nd Amendment lacks common sense.Ask any high school English teacher to parse the Second Amendment, and they will say that it does not prohibit common-sense restrictions on the purchase and possession of guns, in spite of the NRA's claim to the contrary.

    Danica Davidson, MTV News,15 Facts About Gun Violence. #15 - Each day, approximately 32 people are killed by another person through gun violence, 51 commit suicide with a gun, and 45 people are shot accidentally, which sometimes results in death.

    Dylan Matthews,Vox,Most gun deaths are suicides not homicides. That's a strong case for stronger gun policies. Suicide is the terminal stage of a disease.It's a preventable death that we can, and should, prevent.And gun control is a necessary tool for doing that.

    Michael Sierra-Arevalo, op-ed, Hartford Courant,The Shooting Disease: Who You Know, Where You Live."Crazy" is a word used to describe the violence and death toll from guns. But it's not random. As any police officer will tell you, gun violence happens in the same places, year after year.

    Kaeley McEvoy, Sojourners,Intimate Partner Violence and Guns: A Deadly Combination.The cycle of women shot by their intimate partner is an epidemic that needs to be stopped. Guns are used in fatal intimate partner violence more than any other weapon.

    John Boyle,Asheville, North Carolina Citizen-Times,What it's like to carry a loaded gun. Be sure you're mentally able and willing to kill someone. I'm not joking - that's what this is about.

    Matt Valentine, op-ed, Politico Magazine,Texas Just Made College Less Safe. University leaders have thought guns on campus are a bad idea since 1824. So why do states keep allowing it? The fact is, you are less likely to be murdered on a school campus than in the general population.

    Joseph Huff-Hannon,Rolling Stone,Toddlers Are Shooting Each Other: We Don't Need Guns in Schools. I've been tracking shootings involving toddlers for research for my satirical play,Bullets Over Preschool.The title was inspired by the story of a 4-year-old who shot up a daycare center with a 9mm he found in his father's truck.

    Claire McCarthy M.D, Boston Children's Hospital,Why Don't We Treat Gun Safety Like Car Safety?When we talk about motor vehicle safety laws we don't argue about car rights. We would think it was absurd if someone said it was their right to drive faster than the speed limit. We get that cars are dangerous. But somehow gun safety discussions end up being about rights - instead of safety.

    What the Gun Lobby is Doing
    Republicans aim to use the DOJ funding bill to push gun riders. House Republicans have attached several gun riders to the DOJ appropriations bill in an effort to block a number of gun regulations from the Obama administration.

    ► Louisiana's state legislature decided to eliminate a tax holiday for hurricane equipment and school supplies,but keep one for guns and other hunting tools.

    Man with rifle scares at airport: How important is civility to open-carry?Now that some states have decided that residents can carry weapons even at the airport, Americans have watched a steady stream of primarily white males testing the boundaries of what is acceptable when it comes to guns in public places.

    ► Larry Pratt, head of Gun Owners of America, argued that"the Second Amendment was designed for people just like the president and his administration"and added that if the present government wants "to go tyrannical on us, we got something for 'em."



    Advocacy
    Lock%20up%20your%20Guns%20WAGV.jpg ►New PSA fromWomen Against Gun Violence,Lock up Your Guns

    Wisconsin Anti-Violence Efforthosted a symposium todiscuss evidence-based approaches to prevent gun violence.

    ►Becky Ceartas,North Carolinians Against Gun Violence,speaks out against a bill that would do away with the state's pistol permit system. Americans for Responsible Solutionsis airing a new 30-second adcalling on the legislature to defeat the bill.

    ASK%20GWR%20Playdate%20Flyer.jpgJune 21st is National ASK Day(Asking Saves Kids). Join an event near youor find out how to host your own ASK Day playdate.

    Rhode Island Coalition Against Gun Violenceis working on legislation that would allowonly trained law enforcementto concealed-carry on school property.

    ►TheBrady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, theIllinois Council Against Handgun Violenceand others protested Chuck's Gun Shop as part of the"Stop Bad Apple Gun Dealers" campaign.

    ►Penny Okamoto,Ceasefire Oregon,speaks against a vote by Lane County, Oregon county commissionersto not enforce new statewide gun background check requirements.

    Heeding God's Calltook part in a march tomourn the death of an Overbrook, Pennsylvania manshot and killed during an armed robbery by a 14-year-old and two 15-year-olds.

    New Yorkers Against Gun Violence, elected officials, clergy and community leadersmark the third annual Gun Violence Awareness Month. New York is the only state with an official month dedicated to gun violence prevention.

    Violence Policy Centerwarns that a House-passed amendmentcould put fully automatic machine guns into the hands of criminals.

    unload_laptop.jpgUnload Your 401kcampaign fromStates United to Prevent Gun Violenceand theCampaign to Unloadwon two AICP Next Awards.The work will now become part of the Department of Film at the Museum of Modern Art.



    Blogs
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    19-year-old Lacie LaRose was shot and killed during a graduation party in College Station, Texas. Ronald McNeilwas asked to leave the party after an argument over the rules of beer pong.McNeil returned with a gun and fired off 14 rounds from a .40-caliber Glock. Lacie was shot in the neck and died of her wounds. Two other students were injured.









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  12. mrblond

    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    Sure be nice if we had a billionaire or two backing freedom loving americans so we can crap put some flashy adds full of propaganda. Goebbels would have been proud of Herr Bloomberg.
     
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    tiggers97 United States Well-Known Member

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    Was this an email update they send out?
     
  14. RW-Ore

    RW-Ore Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Prozanski is total loser , he will never amount to anything but a Bloomberg pawn.
    He will never get over his sister's murder until every gun owner pays for it.
     
  15. Slobray

    Slobray Yelm, WA Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree on the “total loser” part of your post, but I don’t think what he does has anything to do with his sister and/or her murder. He just uses his sisters murder as a prop to get sympathy and as an excuse for being anti-gun (the same way Mark Kelly uses Gabby Giffords).


    I honestly believe the real reason he does what he does is for the same reason Bloomberg does; he’s a megalomaniac and a wanna be tyrant. He’s all for the progressive liberal democrat socialist/communist agenda, as long as he’s part of the ruling class and he gets to make the rules for the peasants to live by. He may be a pawn, a big fish in a small pond, but that’s OK with him, because he believes he's above us. The money he gets from his puppet master Bloomie is just an added perk. He will always look down on the common folk because he thinks he's better than us; if we can change his station in life and we may change is outlook.


    Ray
     
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  16. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Their report of increased gun violence is inconsistent with that of the fbi. Maybe they did not want to print that overwhelming percent of gun violence is time to certain racial subgroups in the usa. No that would not be reported due to PC.
     
  17. RW-Ore

    RW-Ore Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Absolute trash, bald faced lies could not backup any of it if they were paid to.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Yeah... Oppose reciprocity because so many CHL/CPL holders have been documented shooting up towns, schools, and killing cops.

    o_O:rolleyes:

    Note: for those of you lacking skills in perception, the above was PURE sarcasm.