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ODOT to roll out mileage fee plan test.

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by 01rednavigator, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. 01rednavigator

    01rednavigator salem Active Member

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  2. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    wow, yeah that is BS
     
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  3. 44mag2ndamend

    44mag2ndamend Round the ole tree stump, Down by the crick Well-Known Member

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    Did not read yet, but most likely target long haul truckers whom most already have a gps in their rig.

    P.S. you could never mount one in mine, I don't even pay the DEQ fraud scheme. Pre-74!
     
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  4. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    Gee, a Commie gets elected Govenator and he lays down the Carbon Tax!
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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  6. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    It's aimed to target all journey/service men and women. Which is effing funny because that cost will be passed onto the consumer.

    Seriously.. If they try this a case will be out before te Supreme Court and one "Right to travel" will become an issue.

    Once a tax is implemented it will never cease and will always continue to grow in cost.

    They try this state wide and I bet you'd see a whole lot more violence against our state government. Not making threats, it's just what's going to happen.
     
  7. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    There are already use taxes on fuel and tires. If expenditures are exceeding revenue then they need to increase the appropriate fees. If electric cars, are the issue, then levy an appropriate road use tax on those. No reason whatsoever to track people via GPS.

    If any of you have checked into the insurance company tracking devices, you know that they only work on some newer models. You need to purchase additional devices and pay for a service if your vehicle doesn't have the capability. I suspect it would be the same for government required devices.
     
  8. mkwerx

    mkwerx Forest Grove, OR Well-Known Member

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    No, there's already a weight mile tax on trucks in Oregon. This is a mileage tax on the citizenry as a whole. They are starting a pilot program to test implementation, but the law has been passed already and goes into effect in June or July next year - somehow this crap snuck through the legislature without much press or public input.

    The bastards berate people and demand we drive higher milage vehicles, then whine when the Prius and Leaf crowd aren't "paying their fair share" - what's more retarded is that they are proposing to refund your gas tax with the mileage tax, and if you drive a rig that gets less than about 20mpg and don't drive much, - you come out ahead. If you do drive a high mileage vehicle - you wind up paying more tax than you would under the current system. :confused:

    They can't fix ODOT - which is a mess of bureaucracy and wasted spending - that would make too much sense. The legislature and the executive branch can't come up with a balanced budget that spends less than they take in, they can't prioritize spending to actually address priority issues. They don't listen to the voters. They have an agenda and by God it will be implemented, voters and tax payers be damned.

    How many times have we shot down sales tax in Oregon, but it comes up every time some politician flaps their gums about "tax reform" - because they aren't getting enough of our money. Look at the driver license for illegals BS - the people said no, the legislature did it anyway, and now hopefully we will shoot it down again. But that's an issue that won't be dead either - some other asshat politician will try to sneak it through again.

    It seems like a constant fight against a government which is theoretically subservient to the people - but we never learn. We keep electing the same kind of windbags and tax & spend politicians that won't be happy until they have 100% of your income, plus your body when it's dead so they can find a way to monetize that.

    They've been working on this tax by the mile idea since Kitzy's 2nd term - remember his protege Teddy? HE wanted to put GPS is your car 10 years ago.

    I don't think they'll get a GPS tracking system for your car yet - I have a feeling the program will start like it does with trucks - a huge pile of paperwork that must be filled out and maintained, thus meaning more overpaid government jobs to deal with all the paperwork. They couldn't even do a simple system where once a year you drive your vehicle to the DMV or DEQ and have the mileage recorded. Of course the argument would be "but I don't drive only in oregon" - which is how they WILL get GPS in your car eventually.

    Roll over, lube up, and try not to strugge, the government is here to help after all...o_O
     
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  9. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Utterly ridiculous. I will have a lucrative business on tax box removal/bypassing, though.
     
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  10. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    You guys should go there and leave a comment, I did:D
     
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    bellarum beaverton Well-Known Member

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    When all drivers leave the state and all that's left are the tri-met riders and bicyclists; think of the utopia they will have created for themselves. Everyone's prices will go up to compensate and the economy will tank. Oregon will just have to start requiring bicycle registration, insurance, traffic law enforcement, and a mileage tax! Odot already has a 4 man crew, 2 trucks, and a flagger to fix a pot hole; they can suck it!
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    You may want to read over the bill. Significant penalties are created for tampering with, or in any way altering, the mileage reporting devices that will be installed in vehicles.
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    The bill's chief sponsor was Hansell, a Republican. If you recall how Oregon's government works, the governor only signs bills into law. SB 810 passed both chambers with significant bipartisan support and was signed into law by governor Kitzhaber.
     
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    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    And? What is your point?
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Your lucrative business may not be so lucrative.
     
  16. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Like the other black market businesses?
     
  17. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    I would treat it like they would pull into my private property and try to take my guns!!!!
     
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    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I remember a few years back, some smart guy was trying to implement a "Pay at the Pump" .03 cent tax per gallon that would insure any car, with a no fault insurance policy.
    It was a way to eliminate vehicles on the states roads with no insurance and to eliminate the "Uninsured motorist premium that the insurance companies charge you.
    The more you drive, the more you contributed to the fund.
    The insurance companies shot it down in a heart beat.
     
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    albin25 Lewiston Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Fortune Cookie say,
    "I see a lot of vehicles registered in Oregon with altered (oops! I mean faulty) odometers in the future".
     
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  20. robertg

    robertg Sandy Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    They found 5000 idiots to volunteer to test it?

    I may have to move to Idaho.
     
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