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Obama Signs Executive Order to Bolster Gun Registry

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by fredball, Mar 30, 2013.

  1. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Here it comes via Executive Order! This smerking arshole thinks he's a Dictator




    [h=2]Saturday, March 30, 2013[/h] [h=3]Obama Signs Executive Order to Bolster Gun Registry[/h] obama-signs-executive-order2.jpg Activist Post

    President Obama has not just been speaking in front of cameras with victims of gun violence staged behind him, he's also been busy bypassing Congress by signing executive orders and other actions on gun control.

    In January, Obama issued 23 executive gun control proposals that were mostly organizational and procedural in nature. But now he has officially signed his first definitive executive order to take gun control into his own hands, according to The Hill.

    The Hill reports:
    The president has used his executive powers to bolster the national background check system, jumpstart government research on the causes of gun violence and create a million-dollar ad campaign aimed at safe gun ownership.
    The executive steps will give federal law enforcement officials access to more data about guns and their owners, help keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill, and lay the groundwork for future legislative efforts.
    Obama's Department of Justice says their aim is to strengthen the "quality and quantity of records contained within the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS)."

    Last week the DOJ announced that it is pouring $20 million into beefing up the national gun registry.


    “As part of President Obama’s comprehensive plan to reduce gun violence, the Administration is committed to enhancing and strengthening the national criminal record system in support of stronger firearm background checks,” said Attorney General Eric Holder. “The Department of Justice intends to take immediate and effective action to work with states to fill gaps in information currently available to the NICS system.”

    The DOJ describes the new program as follows:
    Funding will be provided under National Criminal History Improvement Program (NCHIP), NICS Act Record Improvement Program (NARIP), and a new, one-time initiative called, Improving the Completeness of Firearm Background Checks through Enhanced State Data Sharing. This new initiative creates a competitive grant program designed to incentivize states, territories and tribes to share information with NICS by closing information gaps that inhibit complete and accurate background checks.
    Obama's administrative action also included plans for more research into "trigger locks and firearm safe standards to determine if they need to be improved" - aka smart guns, and $1 million to promote gun control through a propaganda campaign.

    imgad200.gif The Hill writes:
    Separately, the administration has given $1 million to the National Crime Prevention Council (NCPC) to create, produce and distribute a nationwide multimedia ad campaign on safe gun ownership and storage. The campaign is heading into the research phase and is expected to air by the early fall, according to a NCPC spokeswoman.
    Isn't this something the NRA does for free, funded by memberships? These multimedia ads will most likely be some ghastly "see something, say something" campaign to help viewers identify "irresponsible" gun owners.

    Finally, this executive order will subsidize the surveillance-industrial complex through a "Cooperative Purchasing" program to provide schools with discounted rates for "surveillance cameras, emergency communication systems, security design and support, and employee background check systems."

    Federally-funded Big Brother surveillance for schools by executive order. It seems the gun control frenzy is bearing more tyrannical fruit than could have been dreamed up by Orwell himself.

    In summary, Obama has signed an executive order to expand and improve the gun database with $20 million in funding, appropriated money for a anti-gun propaganda blitz, and wants all schools tracked, traced, and databased.

    If the motivation for an executive order like this was anything but gun control, Americans would probably be mortified. But instead, the numbed masses will likely cheer that he is finally doing something to avenge senseless murder. Problem-Reaction-Solution accomplished.

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  2. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    On top of the 1.7 billions rounds of ammo DHS has purchased they are now saying the DHS has purchased 175 million body bags for use here in the states. They know whats upon us.
     
  3. Spad

    Spad Kennewick,WA, the desert side Active Member

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    The big problem is when are the sheep in this country goingto see this man for what he is,a Marxist left wing man who is destroying our country...Spad
     
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  4. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunaly some people in this country like that sort of thing.
     
  5. Nutty4Guns

    Nutty4Guns Portland ADHD Superstar

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    Yeah, far too many people.
     
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  6. nwbobber

    nwbobber Longview, Wa. Active Member

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    I don't know what you are all in an uproar about? Better background checks? Have you got something to hide? For my gun rights sake, I think it would be great if people who should not have firearms according to existing law do not get them. That is all an executive order can accomplish, is to enforce existing law. That is the way it is set up and that is all that is happening here. Without the insertion of inflammatory words like propaganda there is nothing not to like in this. Except the CDC stuff perhaps, because (according to what you wrote) they are expressly looking for causes of "gun violence", which should not be separated from all other violence just because of the weapon used.
     
  7. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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  8. nwbobber

    nwbobber Longview, Wa. Active Member

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    No executive order. I will put the Activist Post on my official ignore list. Irresponsible.
     
  9. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    fredball loves to spread half-truths by perpetuating spam email onto forums.

    Take everything he posts with a heaping helping of salt.

    Actual events are alarming enough without the embellishing, hyperbole, and out-right lies.
     
  10. coyote223

    coyote223 NW Oregon Stamp Collector,,,

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    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    Nuts
     
  12. chariot13

    chariot13 Near Eugene/Springfield Well-Known Member

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    You're using the same logic (Have you got something to hide?) that the known nuts use in regards to never complaining when government wants to infringe on privacy concerns. Have you & 'Nick' been enjoying your ceasefire circle jerk here this last week....
     
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    husker portland Active Member

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    Would you be ok with the police searching your house or car anytime they feel like it? You have nothing to hide.
     
  14. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    what will the better background check consist of if you miss paying a bill you are unable to buy a gun?
    what background checks are existing right now for ftf gun purchases here in Wa. or Or.?
    go back to blumberg and tell him you failed miserably
     
  15. nwbobber

    nwbobber Longview, Wa. Active Member

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    OK I admit it. I am in favor of making sure criminals and crazies are kept from buying firearms. I am no criminal, nor am I crazy, have already got my background check out of the way in two states, won't affect me in the least. If it's going to be a problem for you. Fine. Every time we go around this track after some nutcase murders a bunch of people, the crap the gun control folks come up with puts my rights at risk. The only thing that will have any real effect is to limit access to firearms to the folks that create this kind of mess. You got a better idea? Lets hear it. All I hear is a bunch of whining.
     
  16. nwbobber

    nwbobber Longview, Wa. Active Member

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    What I read in it (the bill that is being considered, not this made up executive order BS) is that they are wanting to increase the communication between states, so that mentally ill people and criminals get picked up when a background check is exercised. This is a good thing. I am not in favor of all the increased intrusion into private sales, but tell me how they are going to keep folks from selling to the gang bangers. Find solutions, complaining doesn't cut it. I'm listening.
     
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  17. nwbobber

    nwbobber Longview, Wa. Active Member

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    Thanks for the heads up.
     
  18. Robb

    Robb Gig Harbor, WA New Member

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    Seriously? Are you trolling here? If not, consider the following;

    1. Criminals don't follow the laws - hence they are criminals. So creating a Universal Background Check would not prevent Bob the criminal from selling an illegal gun to Joe the criminal. Do you think they are going to comply with this?

    2. Even if UBC's were in effect, how would a police officer know that the unloaded MSR in my trunk was obtained thru this new system? Well, there would have to be a registry so Mr Police Officer could check.

    3. So since the criminals don't buy guns the way that you and I do, and they won't comply with the UBC mandate, then it will end up being you and I who fill this gun registry list.

    4. The only reason to create this list (since criminals won't be on it) is so they have my address and know where to come and confiscate the guns from. Don't think so? Look at New Orleans post Katrina.
     
  19. nwbobber

    nwbobber Longview, Wa. Active Member

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    I didn't see anything about a registry, I didn't read the whole thing as carefully as I ought to yet, but didn't see it. Background checks are not necessarily tied to a registry. We don't have registry now, just a way for batf to trace the sales in the event that a gun is used in a crime. The paper you fill out at the gun shop stays at the gun shop. Concerned about the government knowing you have guns? Seriously, all they have to do if they are going to violate our rights to that extent is check this forum, then go find the folks posting here.

    I don't believe the conspiracy theories. I am paying attention, just not to the folks who are focused on the evil government that is coming for our guns. There are folks in government who would, to be sure, but the government as a whole is not controlled by those people. Read the bill and post your letters to them, addressing your concerns about the specific areas you have problems with. Be sure to present alternatives.
     
  20. mydearas

    mydearas Seattle, Wa Member

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    Exactly! I wouldnt be against a background check if big brother wasnt keeping a record of the phone call, just a simple call to verify we're a good guy, then on with the transaction.