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Obama Pledges to Use Last 18 Months in Office Pushing Gun Control

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Liberty97045, Jul 28, 2015.

  1. Liberty97045

    Liberty97045 Oregon City Well-Known Member

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  2. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Actually, the far left is currently really upset with Obama for not doing more to control guns. The left wing website Politico just posted an editorial yesterday condemning Obama for being too soft on guns. They claim that he could be doing a lot through Executive Orders to control guns more. They urged him to use the Civil Rights Act to justify taking steps, claiming that minorities are hit harder by gun violence.

    So political pressure from the far left is being put on Obama to act:


    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/barack-obama-guns-120691.html#.VbfbRvkUWUk
     
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  3. 41Slinger

    41Slinger Harrisburg Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Gun Control, aim small, hit small. Can the Obunghole help me with that?
     
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  4. K-22

    K-22 Vancouver WA Active Member

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    Go to google, and check out "Project Exile".
    Implementing this program in more cities would solve a lot of the crime with firearms problems, as well as save local governments a lot of money.
    This program has a proven track record.

    As a matter of fact, I think this is information you should pass on to your local politicians, and news media people. Reader's Digest gave this program very good reviews several years ago. But then, it is not th positive stories that keep being repeated.

    Best,
    Gary

    Best,
    Gary
     
  5. 41Slinger

    41Slinger Harrisburg Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Yea, that Constitution thing, It keeps Obuttlump from running for President a third time, what a pain that stinky old Constitution is.
     
  6. bakersman345

    bakersman345 Camas wa Well-Known Member

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    We should pull up the stuff Obama's come up with on guns.

    Several states have passed universal background checks- he pushed that and cronies paid for it.

    The 556 ammo scare (free tip"

    Banned some importation of firearms

    Made us all look like azzholes

    The social security thing last weekish

    Probably more.

    anyway he's trying to lay ground for Hillary to land on by doing and supporting the most leftist crap possible.
    We are dieing out and must get a strong right winger into office that can solidify freedom the way it should be
     
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    U201494 Well-Known Member

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    This narcasist dipsh-it will screw the Democrats for a long time to come and gain nothing in the process. He can kiss my pastey white nutbag.
     
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  8. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Uhhhh.... Yeah, 99.99% by their OWN HANDS!!! :rolleyes:o_O
     
  9. Trailboss

    Trailboss Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Well I pledge that over the next 18 months I will introduce 6 more young people to shooting and will ensure that they grow up to be gun rights voters.
     
  10. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Well, but remember, in their mentality, the hand holding the gun is irrelevant.

    The evil bad thing is the gun itself.

    This would be sort of groundbreaking, though, for an inanimate object to be found guilty of violating someone's civil rights. But such is the insane thinking by the far left these days.

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  11. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Well, if you look at their stats, they can only reach those high numbers by counting suicide as being "gun violence". And the vast majority of gun deaths are actually suicides. And they are often by elderly people who are seriously ill and suffering, and simply want to end their life of pain.

    With all of the advances in medicine, Americans are living much longer than ever. However, what is often not taken into consideration is the quality of that person's life. New drugs and medical procedures may be keeping many more person alive longer. But that does not necessarily mean that the quality of the person's life is any good.

    Many people are probably not aware that the AARP is in favor of banning ANY gun ownership by the elderly, because of this suicide problem. That is their solution for the issue.

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  12. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Hasn't "government assistance" risen threefold since he was in office? I'd like to know the increase in diabetic deaths from people lying around and shoving their cakeholes with cake since he got on the job.
    You wanna save lives? Quit enslaving people for a friggin vote.
     
  13. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Not quite. According to the CDC's own numbers, there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 10-12 thousand homicides by gun per year in the country (if you remove the numbers for suicides). So, his claim that the number is 10's of thousands since 9/11 is correct. But he knows something about the stupidity of the average voter - they don't stop to actually consider how many people die in a year, or, for that matter, how they die. When you use numbers in the 10's of thousands, people's ears perk up and they get incensed at the sheer volume of numbers. Numbers are so big, so very, very big. So I must be scared and we must do something!!!!

    But, like most a-hole politicians, they leave out more than they actually say. The discussion for them has absolutely nothing to do with the numbers of people dying, if it were, they would focus on something more important. No, they are against guns and they know if they highlight certain aspects of guns, the remarkably stupid and overly emotional low-information voters will respond with great outcries to end the literal rivers of gun-violence induced blood flowing down every street in America.

    No, if it was about numbers, they would turn their focus to those things that kill far more Americans every single year, starting with the ones that get folks really worked up:

    Consider suicides:

    41,149 total in 2013
    21,175 by gun
    19,974 by other means
    So, almost 1/2 of all suicides do not use guns - but we don't say or do anything to prevent those other methods, even though they are basically as effective as the guns.

    Now consider homicides in light of those numbers:

    16,121 total in 2013 (less than 1/2 of all suicides)
    11,208 were by a firearm, the rest by other means

    Comparing numbers of deaths, let's take a look at the totals for other types of deaths - the ones in BOLD are those that are greater in number every year than gun homicides - the numbers below are some of the unintentional deaths - leaving out suicide and homicide:

    * Drowing - 4,056
    * Falls - 30,208 (unintentional, there were also almost 1,000 suicides by falls)
    * Motor Vehicle - 33,804 (includes pedestrian struck)
    * Fire/Hot Object - 2,818
    * Poisoning - 38,851 (unintentional)
    * Suffocation - 6,601 (does not include just over 10,000 suicides by suffocation)
    * Unspecified - 5,407 (type of death not specified)

    A total of 130,557 Americans die every year in ACCIDENTS. That's almost 13 times more than die in gun homicides. And since these are accidents, the implication is that there are ways to avoid them. Yet the President doesn't stand up and weep over more than 100,000 people killed every year in accidents. Why? Because the numbers really don't matter. What matters is his anti-gun agenda, pure and simple.

    And I didn't even touch on those that die because of alcohol, drugs, smoking and medical errors.

    I keep a link to these numbers on my computer. I present them to any person that will listen in the hope of showing them that gun violence is not the epidemic of death it's portrayed to be in the media and by our politicians.

    We, as responsible gun owners, should be armed with these facts, so we can push them out in every venue possible. If the President, Bloomberg, the MAGS and every other anti-gunner can use numbers to make people fearful in their beds and pee their pants every time they turn on the news, then we should be able to use numbers to help them understand that they are being duped. Knowledge is power. Politicians and the media are dangerous.

    Source: All numbers taken from the CDC's data on deaths for 2013 found here: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf
     
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  14. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The other factor that is often overlooked is the per capita rate of homicide. The US population is now a whopping 321,395,000 people. That is over 100 million more people than we had in 1976. When we look at the homicide rate, the rate back in 1976 was actually much higher than it is today.

    So a person is actually much safer now. Part of the reason why the numbers are currently so high is simply that our nation now has far more people.

    But the far left wants to convince everyone that violence is SKYROCKETING. That we have a CRISIS, when none actually exists. That is the BIG LIE that is being repeated over and over again by gun control advocates.


    US-Homicide-Rate-1855-2012.jpg
     
  15. Liberty97045

    Liberty97045 Oregon City Well-Known Member

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    I would like to use this chart. Do you have references where the data came from?
     
  16. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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