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NWFA Code of Ethics for shooting on public land...
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I've been peaking at these posts but haven't had time to respond. Really good conversation you're having here.
I think the ideas of doing the signs and the etiquette info in a pamphlet, are good. I know the brochures we distribute are popular, as we can't keep them on the shelf at the gun stores, so, I'm sure a pamphlet like this would be well received.
If you guys don't mind, I'll work something up and try to get something that hits the target (yes, pun intended).
I think the ideas of doing the signs and the etiquette info in a pamphlet, are good. I know the brochures we distribute are popular, as we can't keep them on the shelf at the gun stores, so, I'm sure a pamphlet like this would be well received.
If you guys don't mind, I'll work something up and try to get something that hits the target (yes, pun intended).
What we need is a good school teacher that has summers off to just travel around and give these classes. Already has the teaching knowledge and the gun saftey down pat. If they get out of line the military training kicks in.
Could be a win win for everyone.
Yeah, someone moderate, who won't go off half-cocked, certainly not a flash-in-the-pan, someone who can ram that info into their brains, keep them all on target, spark their interest in guns and safety and won't spend half the class Hawken his books, seminars, etc.
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Sweet lord that is a lot of puns.Yeah, someone moderate, who won't go off half-cocked, certainly not a flash-in-the-pan, someone who can ram that info into their brains, keep them all on target, spark their interest in guns and safety and won't spend half the class Hawken his books, seminars, etc.
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Yeah, someone moderate, who won't go off half-cocked, certainly not a flash-in-the-pan, someone who can ram that info into their brains, keep them all on target, spark their interest in guns and safety and won't spend half the class Hawken his books, seminars, etc.
WOW well done my friend well done.
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Yeah, someone moderate, who won't go off half-cocked, certainly not a flash-in-the-pan, someone who can ram that info into their brains, keep them all on target, spark their interest in guns and safety and won't spend half the class Hawken his books, seminars, etc.
There was a Punster Convention (really) not long ago where one of the participants wore a T-shirt that said "You Make Me Corny."
You win the t-shirt @etrain16
Oh wait...that didn't come out quite right
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This is why you should not drink coffee ( or anything else ) while reading posts here.Yeah, someone moderate, who won't go off half-cocked, certainly not a flash-in-the-pan, someone who can ram that info into their brains, keep them all on target, spark their interest in guns and safety and won't spend half the class Hawken his books, seminars, etc.
I almost ruined my keyboard , I was laughing so hard ...
Andy
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Hm...after reading some of this thread I dunno.
Rules are already in place. Both with firearm handling and places to shoot. I respect my national forest. People just need to respect something.
What we need to do is vote laws into place such as:
-gang bangers and crack heads can be shot on sight during a crackhead hunting season regulated by fish and game.
-osp needs the authority to shoot cell phone while driving and passing on the right offenders on sight.
-all snowflakes/liberals must collectively stay in one city and remain In the city.
Give me your votes now...Mr. A-MAX for president.
Rules are already in place. Both with firearm handling and places to shoot. I respect my national forest. People just need to respect something.
What we need to do is vote laws into place such as:
-gang bangers and crack heads can be shot on sight during a crackhead hunting season regulated by fish and game.
-osp needs the authority to shoot cell phone while driving and passing on the right offenders on sight.
-all snowflakes/liberals must collectively stay in one city and remain In the city.
Give me your votes now...Mr. A-MAX for president.
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There is already a place where it's open season on drug addicts (and people who aren't but are called "addicts" for personal or political payback). The Philippines is ruled by a murdering authoritarian strongman. It ain't pretty.
There is another place where secular "liberals" are being rounded up, jailed, and fired from their jobs wholesale. Turkey is run by another authoritarian strongman and it's going down the toilet too.
Our democracy is dying, I know that. Too many Americans are tired of democracy and crave an authoritarian strongman.
I just hope the Republic holds on for just a little longer.
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Just my humor man. I'm only kidding. Except for the drug dealers.
This is a problem because you can go a 100 mile 's into the woods and have a hiker come and give you a problem because he thinks the woods are his lol carry a shovel the S#!+ gets deep out there and a shovel is always needed to cover up s#!+
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Well, we missed this go round for sign changes. They are already printed and ready to post.
This Saturday, the 29th, Trash No Land and ODF will be replacing and upgrading the signs at North Fork Wolf Creek Rd, in Tillamook State Forest (The Luepold team will be joining us as well). We're replacing all signage with new & updated info for each lane, including the yardage of each. We'll also be discussing how to 'firm up the berms', as they are deteriorating from a years worth of use.
Here's a couple of the new ones going up (Dropbox PDF Files)...
Dropbox - NorthForkWolfCreek_Diagram_Site_3_v11212016_2.pdf
Dropbox - Site Sign_2.pdf
I'll be planning on space to add the new range etiquette info to these signs. Here's a pic of what the signs look like today... Faded and wrinkled. Two of the signs have holes through them. (Not bad for 1 year in use!). The plywood is easily replaced and we'll post all new signs on each lane.
So if you're up there this Saturday, stop and say "Hey"!
This Saturday, the 29th, Trash No Land and ODF will be replacing and upgrading the signs at North Fork Wolf Creek Rd, in Tillamook State Forest (The Luepold team will be joining us as well). We're replacing all signage with new & updated info for each lane, including the yardage of each. We'll also be discussing how to 'firm up the berms', as they are deteriorating from a years worth of use.
Here's a couple of the new ones going up (Dropbox PDF Files)...
Dropbox - NorthForkWolfCreek_Diagram_Site_3_v11212016_2.pdf
Dropbox - Site Sign_2.pdf
I'll be planning on space to add the new range etiquette info to these signs. Here's a pic of what the signs look like today... Faded and wrinkled. Two of the signs have holes through them. (Not bad for 1 year in use!). The plywood is easily replaced and we'll post all new signs on each lane.
So if you're up there this Saturday, stop and say "Hey"!
As for Wolf creek, maybe something painted on the barriers regarding the four basic rules. Large letters would be pretty hard to ignore? "MUZZLES MUST BE POINTED DOWN RANG AT ALL TIMES!" for instance? It really needs to be wording that is in your face. I'm not sure that any regular shooters, that may tend to be a little loose with the basic rules, are going to even look at the small print on the sign boards most times?
I like your idea but would ultimately say do both. We do need full range safety rules posted in detail.... But a basic rule or two plastered in your face wouldnt hurt either.
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One more option would be to have volunteer's work weekends that have the ability to slap them up side the head when they do something stupid.
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I was able to spend Friday a.m. with new found friends on lane 3 and after a while had a chance to talk to Randy, the state forest manager about this precious resource for shooters. Some shooters are apparently leaving their brass lying on the ground believing it's okay because someone is coming along and picking it up. That's true, but that's not what the folks running the show would like to see. Randy asked to make it clear that the preference is for each of us to remove all of our brass and target material we bring on site including any target boards we think will be useful to the next shooter. The agency is in the process of considering opening a couple of other lanes including one exceeding 100 yards, so we need to do all we can to encourage that. No shooting signs, no shooting in the air, pick up your brass, take your target material with you. Not so hard to do.
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Good report, @Oya ! Thanks for the feedback!
As Randy puts it... We have Opportunities here (at these lanes). Opportunities to show we care about recreational shooting, in that we all share the responsibilities of stewardship. Opportunities to teach others by example and conversations. Opportunities to grow recreational shooting, and Opportunities to preserve our kind of recreation for years to come. It means we need to educate, inform and encourage people to come on board and adopt an attitude of high esteem and pride for respectable shooting on public land.
Today, we met with Randy Peterson, of ODF, and performed a little maintenance & repairs on all the signs at North Fork Wolf Creek (we as in Brian, VP of Trash No Land @Reno911 and I).
All new, bright, lovely signs! You may notice the additions to the 'Lane Maps' sign. They now include the yardage of each (the blue arrow line). We replaced the plywood on Lanes 2 & 4 because of shotgun holes, and all lanes got new beautiful signage. When they get damaged and wrinkled again, we'll change them out once again (probably next summer).
We are also planning some improvements to these lanes. Stuff like mud control, berm support, ways to discourage putting targets above the berms on the hill, and more. When we get to those improvements, we'll need some volunteer help to get them done. It will be sometime this fall.
For now, here's what went down today...
So you can see, we're stepping up to the plate and promoting responsible shooting at these places. We have a valuable asset in Oregon Dept of Forestry and Randy Peterson! Let's not let him down and show that we are good stewards and value the privilege of shooting on public land. More ideas and improvements to come!
Thanks all!
Bill
