NW Oregon, No More Long Range Shooting

[U201491]

I best quit before I say what I really mean.............

 

[Charliehorse]

I am always amazed by those that think ther vote as individual is more important than another individuals vote because of where they live. The population as a rule makes the laws by having a larger number of votes. The majority of individuals live in the valley. That is where the majority of laws come from and should. One vote for each person as it should be. I no longer live in Portland so though I can understand the sentiment facts are facts.

I understand one vote for each person. But IMO the one flaw our Founders did not foresee was the concentration of votes in areas (cities) where their business, natural resource, even climate environments, and even culture; are vastly different than the rest of the jurisdiction. Yet their concentrated votes dictate policy for the entire jurisdiction because they have the majority (and being packed together are easily swayed/manipulated).

Southern Oregon economies have been devastated for decades now due to DC and Salem policies. Policies that may be fine in their local area, and even good for their businesses, but have been outrageously burdensome here.

I don't care about having the votes to tell Portlanders how to live. But I am sick of city dwellers thinking they know what's best for rural Oregon.

A quick ex: Heck Salem is still trying to kill us off by outlawing studded tires. I used to drive for a living and every 5k pass is treacherous with black ice during winter and any month it is still freezing. If studded tires save 1 life, they are worth the alleged road damage. And as road damage goes, if studs for a few months are so bad, then why did they just spend millions grinding "noise grooves" in the centerline and shoulder lines on every highway? Now the pavement has plenty of places for ice to form and uproot pavement.
I could go on and on....

It would be better if the big cities set up laws for the cities to live by and let the rest of the state remain free. The system doesn't work that way but it should.

Yes.

 

[RVTECH]

From the files of 'If I have heard it once I have heard it a 'million times' from a relocated Kalifornian:

"I sure miss the (place/thing/amusement/facility/company/brand item) I had IN KALIFORNIA"

 

[1911Ryan]

Very productive conversation people, I heard Albany rifle and Pistol club. Roger that.

 

[Morpheus]

There might be places down in south of Estacada as well.

 

[RVTECH]

Very productive conversation people,

I understand your sentiment however I believe I speak for all Oregonians (at least on this forum) who, for that last however many years, have seen this once Great State go to he77 in a hand bag largely in part to the scourge of Kalifornians who have descended upon this once Great State over the last 30 + years and have literally shoved, demanded, pushed, taken, fought over or bought out anything they could to turn Oregon into the one of the worst bastions of liberalism in the country. If THEY can't have it or own it then they want it wrapped, packaged, bottled up and fenced off and admission charged for it's use.

Many of us who have carved out a living here can look back on times when gun issues (and many other things) were never even a blip on the radar. We remember a time when conservatism was the rule - not the exception to it, and experienced and appreciated much greater freedoms than we have now. As outdoorsmen, hunters and fishermen we remember simpler times when we could buy our licenses and tags and enjoy traditional family and party outdoor experiences, and now mostly a thing of the past due to extremely oppressive game and hunting laws and in some cases nearly double digit license and tag fees.

The once respected organizations of the Forest Service and Department of Fish and Game are now nothing more than liberal environmental and preservationist organizations that listen more to special interest groups than they do the outdoorsmen. They care more about spending money to support the introduction of invasive (and potentially dangerous) non-native species of animals (hybrid wolves) than they do about managing the fish and game.

The reality of all of what I mentioned is we in Oregon are experiencing a similar 'evolutionary' path down the road of progressive liberalism (and socialism) eerily similar to what California did only much earlier.

So is it possible to understand the pessimism and apathy we may express toward California?

 

[JRuby]

Guess who sold the californians the propery in the first place. Our.fellow Oregonian's allowed this to happen. Greed.

 

[RVTECH]

Guess who sold the californians the propery in the first place. Our.fellow Oregonian's allowed this to happen. Greed.

There is that. No doubt about it however no one could have predicted the political ramifications that followed.

 

[scasey]

It wouldn't be Oregon without people complaining about Californians. I remember 30 years ago when I was a child people complained about Californians, even our governor at one point made it a point to not be welcoming. Portland has always been liberal, Californians or not and this is where the majority of people live in the state. Standard of living and crime rates really have never been better in the state. As for guns, I don't have any issues finding a spot. Spend some time on google maps, map out some locations and go exploring, camp and enjoy the Oregon outdoors.

Honestly, the worst thing about shooting in National Forests is the garbage pile at every location with a good backstop. It's embarrassing.

 

[Velzey]

These day I head over east to shot 1000 yards plus! I have a few areas I go to around Fort Rock and that entire area. Tons of safe places to shoot for miles! I use to shoot allot down around Saddle mountain but have to use atv's to get in and out now.

Head to La Pine and then go east 30 miles!

 

[Brutus57]

Doesn't help your situation but try living on an island! Pistol range at the club, rifles I heard rumors of forgiddaboudit. Too busy right now to investigate till fall.

Brutus Out

 

[MikeE]

Long range at Douglas ridge goes till sunset on Thursdays if that is any help.

 

[P7M13]

Ryan,
Finding 1000 yards+ is possible, but not easy. Definitely nothing as simple or pleasant as Burbank.
There are a coupla spots that I used to use. Now, anywhere I go, I usually fill a box or two of garbage.

Most of the satellite images on Google earth are >3 years old. My suggestion is explore.

If you head out hwy 8, connect into Hwy 6 and then head west into the Tillamook State Forest past Lee (about 25 minutes from FG), then head north into the hills there. You will find some long range areas in the ridges above the Wilson River.
It's a no-no to shoot along forest roads. I have shot across valleys up there but I don't recommend it if it's crossing roads.

Welcome to Oregon. Keep shooting. Convert some peacenik Ex Cali Pats to the way of the fire stick. Be safe.

 

[1911Ryan]

I appreciate the constructive advice guys and gals. I will definitely check out all of the avenues that you have suggested.

Don't get me wrong, I love Oregon, and I'm not trying to bring the Cali lifestyle to Oregon. I'm also not from California, I just lived there, I'm from Oklahoma.

I am a responsible gun owner and avid shooter. I do my best to turn people onto firearm activities and I can actually say I've gotten a few to either increase their activity or to buy their first firearm. Everyone counts. Now I just need to get more politically involved. I think Mike at MK Tactical can help with that.

Thanks,
Ryan

 

[rick benjamin]

DRRC from 1k pits Accepting new members

55 miles from Forest Grove to DRRC

Is DRRC accepting new members?

No. We have reached our statutory membership limit and are only accepting
new members as old memberships are vacated. Sorry.

 

[Charliehorse]

Guess who sold the californians the propery in the first place. Our.fellow Oregonian's allowed this to happen. Greed.

While this is partly true, it is mostly a false narrative.
Sure, some sold their places because they were 'flipping' for a good price (not just the frothy mid 2k's), but in the majority of cases people were moving up to bigger and better properties, because they moved, for better employment, due to family issues, etc.
But in most all those cases (with the exception of those moving out of state), other in State properties were purchased by those same Oregonian's at the then market rates.
So to say it was all because of "Oregonian's greed" is just not correct.

 

[Charliehorse]

Standard of living and crime rates really have never been better in the state.

Maybe that's true in Hillsboro, but it is certainly not true outside of the Willamette Valley/Metro areas.

 

[JRuby]

Is thete any place today that

While this is partly true, it is mostly a false narrative.
Sure, some sold their places because they were 'flipping' for a good price (not just the frothy mid 2k's), but in the majority of cases people were moving up to bigger and better properties, because they moved, for better employment, due to family issues, etc.
But in most all those cases (with the exception of those moving out of state), other in State properties were purchased by those same Oregonian's at the then market rates.
So to say it was all because of "Oregonian's greed" is just not correct.

Pretty clesr that there were alot of oregonians willing to take advantage if californians with large bank rolls. We disagree. There was a lot of greed involved.

 

[Just Jim]

Is thete any place today that

Pretty clesr that there were alot of oregonians willing to take advantage if californians with large bank rolls. We disagree. There was a lot of greed involved.

Allways struck me as odd that the kali people would pay big dollars to get a house here but bring kali thinking with them. They wanted to get away but turn it into the same hell. That greed you speak of was them seeing the same house here for less than half of what it sold for down in kali. Now you know why a house cost so damn much, the kali people drove the prices up.

 

[JRuby]

Its going to get worse as housing shortsges continue.