National NRA stalling National Reciprocity?

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  1. MrRob96

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    How about Pelosi? ;)

    Republicans, in general on the federal level, aren't interested in restoring your gun rights. I believe that fight is considered very much a states rights issue.

    We need the Supreme Court to step up and interpret the 2A for these bubblegums like California.
     
  2. billdeserthills

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  3. HB of CJ

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    National concealed firearm reciprocity is a double edged sword or mandate. Why license or restrict something NATIONALLY that in plain written English says shall not be infringed? Such national reciprocity would in my feeble opinion be a gross violation of the Second Amendment.

    But then again how could it be a States Rights issue? The US Constitution says someplace that the States can not get in cahoots agreeing on lots of stuff. No laws, treaties and such just between the States. If Oregon recognizes other States Carry permits, is such a thing even Constitutional?

    What can be done to resolve all of this? Perhaps just default to a pure Constitutional issue and solution. The Feds have no business licensing and restricting the Second Amendment. The Several States can not enact private agreements between states. Both are dead wrong. WTF?

    A possible solution may be to just honor the wording and meaning of the Second Amendment? No restrictions or infringements at all. Hopefully that bad potential might be tempered with a desired but not required various levels of competency and skill in the employment of handguns?

    Private or even State sponsored OPTIONAL extensive hand gun training? Not required. Legal. Classroom. Passive and active training. Gun smithing. Enact all of this on the local level. Perhaps a layered training routine? Higher proficiency the better. Then no concealed licensing at all?

    Respectfully. But ... the above would required honor responsibility and duty regarding Citizenship. Something greatly lacking today. Sad.
     
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    It has always been my feeling that "WE" gun owners have WAY too many people with their hands in our pockets. I've been an NRA member for Many years(50+) and I simply Don't support(feed) these other dollar grabbing types. And I believe that if we all did that they could do a lot more. I don't for a minute believe that their Not pushing for NR as hard as they can but it is a Very complex issue. Ain't none of it simply.:D:D:D
     
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  5. Hawaiian

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    If they don't have the votes to pass it, stalling until they get them is a good thing. This usually how it works in the puzzle palace.
     
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    If being a member was not a requirement of the gun club I belong to I tell em to shove it
     
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  7. Diamondback

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  8. cigars

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    IMHO they probably would be against National Reciprocity. If it passes, it's just one less revenue stream coming in for them. I liked them better when Charlton Heston was in charge.
     
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    Version I heard is they weren't as Black Rifle Friendly as it seemed then... allegedly, they wanted Heston to hold an AR during his "My Cold Dead Hands" speech but had to use a musket because he threw a full "EWWWW ICKY MACHINE GUN!" sh*tfit.

    Heston wasn't really in charge anyway, all the Presidents have been just faces for Wanker Wayne and his Weasel Wonks in the org bureaucracy to hide behind.
     
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    They really didn't have the black rifle juggernaut back then which we have going on today. As well, their marketing was driven more by magazine ads rather than the standard Internet saturation that is so typical today.
    I would think that if CH was still around today that he would still be into muskets and six guns. Not everyone is into the AR/AK scene. It's all good though, same umbrella.
     
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    Good point, @cigars --I myself am not an enthusiast or fan of the AR platform; while I have one built and a few more under construction it's more a "grudging recognition of its virtues."
     
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    Owning, knowing and employing any black rifle is only 10% of responsible citizenship. Some have become lazy. Me included. :(
     
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    Wayne La Pierre is paid almost $1,000,000/ year by the NRA
    I wonder how much he donates?
     
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    Interesting. Even now, Oregon does not recognize any other state's CCH. I can't imagine the socialist left in Portland would just roll over on something like this. Maybe they won't have a choice.. Any lawyers on here care to venture a guess?

    I'll take a cheap suppressor over another rain check and more empty promises any day. Just do something already.
     
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    I would prefer the National Hearing Protection Act pass prior to National CWP Reciprocity.
    The *only* reason I belong to the NRA is because my club requires it.
     
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    For me personally, it's more giving the task master the finger. I always want, or want more of, what they say I shouldn't have...

    I'm funny that way, non-compliant and all...
     
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    That too. :) If a Demofascist doesn't want me to have something that's all the reason I need to lay hands on as many as I can get.

    I think from now on all my EPL's get assigned serials starting with "FVCKY0U"...
     
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