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NRA-ILA | Bad Medicine for Gun Owners Confirmation Vote Looms for Obamas Anti gun Surgeon General No

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  1. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    NRA-ILA | Bad Medicine for Gun Owners Confirmation Vote Looms for Obamas Anti gun Surgeon General Nominee

    http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2014/12/bad-medicine-for-gun-owners-confirmation-vote-looms-for-obamas-anti-gun-surgeon-general-nominee.aspx

    Bad Medicine for Gun Owners: Confirmation Vote Looms for Obama’s Anti-gun Surgeon General Nominee
    Posted on December 12, 2014
    As we began reporting earlier this year, President Obama has nominated anti-gun activist Vivek Murthy for the post of U.S. Surgeon General. Particularly given the president’s determination to reinvigorate taxpayer-funded gun control propaganda under the guise of public health research, confirmation of Dr. Murthy would pose a serious threat to the rights of gun owners. Dr. Murthy’s résumé of partisan activism on behalf of gun control, in which he specifically leveraged his status as a doctor, is detailed at length in a letter NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox sent on Tuesday to Senators Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Harry Reid (D-Nev.), reasserting NRA’s opposition to his nomination. 1977367_10152399710346833_1341384008_n.png

    Following the outcry from pro-gun quarters that followed Dr. Murthy’s nomination earlier this year, Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid decided to delay the confirmation vote. Now, with a number of senators no longer fearing the electorate after having lost their bids for re-election in the midterms, or having announced their retirements, Reid is poised to make another run to confirm Dr. Murthy, with a vote that could occur at any time. Senator Reid also led an effort to change the rules governing approval of presidential appointments last fall, initiating the so-called “nuclear option” that eliminated the filibuster on most executive and judicial appointments and allowed for approval on a simple majority vote. Such partisan maneuvering is particularly appropriate in the case of Dr. Murthy, considering he leads an organization once known as Doctors for Obama.

    Predictably, the Obama-loving media has had a field day criticizing NRA for its opposition. Op-eds variously and contradictorily insisted that the post of surgeon general is irrelevant to gun control or that what America really needs is a surgeon general, like Murthy, who understand that “gun violence” is a “public health epidemic.” Dr. Murthy, meanwhile, meekly pledged not to use the office of surgeon general as a bully pulpit for gun control and insisted that he will instead focus on obesity, which he called “the defining public health issue of our time.” Of course, anyone who recalls similar assurances by other Obama appointees, or even Obama himself, has reason for skepticism. Perhaps most absurdly, another line of attack against NRA’s opposition to Murthy’s confirmation was that it was facilitating the spread of Ebola in America. Apparently only Dr. Murthy could explain how obesity leads to Ebola.

    Yet as the letter Chris Cox sent to the Senate observes, those who deny Vivek Murthy’s gun control aspirations as surgeon general are strongly contradicted by single-issue gun control advocacy groups themselves, many of which continue to vigorously press for his confirmation. Indeed, the Brady Campaign is so vested in the Murthy confirmation effort that it was quoted as a source about the upcoming vote by a December 5 article in The Hill magazine. As NRA’s letter states, “the coordination between the Brady Campaign and those seeking to engineer Dr. Murthy’s confirmation heightens already significant concerns about his willingness to politicize the office of Surgeon General to promote gun control.”

    Chris Cox had previously warned the Senate that “confirmation of Dr. Murthy is a prescription for disaster for America’s gun owners.” Subsequent events have only confirmed that prognosis.

    As we await Dr. Murthy's confirmation vote in the Senate, it is critically important that you immediately contact your Senators and ask them to OPPOSE confirmation of President Obama's radically anti-gun nominee--Dr. Vivek Murthy--for U.S. Surgeon General.You can contact your U.S. Senators by using the "Write Your Lawmakers" tool at www.NRAILA.org. You may also contact your Senators by phone at (202) 224-3121.

    Again, please take action and contact your U.S. Senators immediately.
     
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  2. donaldc

    donaldc Seattle Active Member

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    This may be a bit of a tin foil hat moment, but I believe I'm starting to see their plan.

    First, they want doctors to be able to "discuss gun safety with their patients". This sounds like a reasonable request on the surface - akin to telling parents about pool safety or chemical storage with children around and is probably how this will all start out.

    However, with Obamacare coming into force things start to change. With the government having more control over the health care system and someone like Vive Murthy as Surgeon General, they will be able to start mandating that questions about guns be asked (rather than just information given). This information will be kept at the doctor’s office, for now.

    Now this is the part that is chilling:
    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index...._cny_too_mentally_unstable_to_have_weapo.html

    Doctors could then be required to ask and report the following types of questions:
    • Is this person a danger to themselves or others?
    • Does this person have guns and children in the same house? Are they locked up?
    • Do you (the doctor) believe this person should have access to guns?
    Eventually, the informatiom gathered from these questions could be used to go after guns. This could all happen in the distant future, which is part of the problem with our arguments being ineffective against these "common sense steps to promote gun safety". The gun control agenda can be summed up with the following: If you put a frog in boiling water it will jump out. However, if you put it in cold water and slowly turn up the heat, it will boil to death and never know what happened.
     
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    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    freestoneangler wa Well-Known Member

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    Boehner and McConnell had damn well better start taking the actions necessary to reel in the Manchurian President and his unconstitutional actions. They shouldn't support a single cabinet nominee unless they are middle road at worst. If they don't and this social progressive with everything but a non-partisan agenda gets in at least it should only be for 2 years...right?

    Thanks for the reminder... e-letters on the way.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    ref: Boehner and McConnell


    They are worthless and need to be in straitjackets . A drunk and a do nothing.
     
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    usagi Redmond Well-Known Member

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    this alone is enough grounds to oppose his nomination. he campaigned heavily to elect obama and pass ACA. his nomination appears to be payment for his support. it makes his appointment appear to be political corruption.

    besides that, he is far too young and has far too little experience to be a surgeon general.

    we need another c. everett koop, not another joycelyn elders.
     
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    Well, that was a wasted effort.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Yep sure was. I don't think the country can wait til 2016 to get a vaccine. If the new congress and senate don't do their job right away, then the people need to fix it as it should have done right after 2008.
    Otherwise America will not make it to 2016.
     
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    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    I propose that "WE THE PEOPLE" should enact a law (which we should be able to) that any elected official in D.C. can be recalled anf removed forcefully if they do not fulfill their campaign promises or their oath of office!!!
     
  11. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Bah, the surgeon general is a figurehead. What is the only significant thing you can remember a surgeon general doing? Labels on cigarettes and that chick that had to retire for promoting jerking off. That's all I can remember.

    Besides that they have no teeth. They cant pass any laws. They cant order civilians around. They give advice to the president and head the Commissions corps. So perhaps there will be more gun questions at the Indian Health services clinics. Sucks to be a native american gun owner.