Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

NRA Gun Insurance Scam

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by PlayboyPenguin, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

    Messages:
    4,833
    Likes Received:
    1,742
  2. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,708
    Likes Received:
    405
    Investing in quality safe would be better choice. (bolted to the floor/wall)
     
  3. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

    Messages:
    4,833
    Likes Received:
    1,742
    No, a safe can easily be overcome by anyone determined enough that has the time. Insurance is a no brainer.
     
  4. Key-Hay

    Key-Hay North Carolina Active Member

    Messages:
    922
    Likes Received:
    159
    A safe (well my safes) can only be easily overcome by a skid steer dozer with a good running start. I do however have a rider on my home owners policy.
     
  5. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,708
    Likes Received:
    405
    When you see all the breaking into safe videos, safes are laying down on the floor. But if you mount the safe right-way, it would be very difficult to do it. (almost impossible) Also you can always add to home insurance.
     
  6. gunnails

    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

    Messages:
    752
    Likes Received:
    210
    ============================================

    Is this one of you're Vids?:)
     
  7. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

    Messages:
    4,833
    Likes Received:
    1,742
    Don't fool yourself into a false sense of security. I once watched a locksmith zip open an industrial level safe in just a few minutes. The safe was an industrial level safe well above any gunsafe you are going to find.
     
  8. Key-Hay

    Key-Hay North Carolina Active Member

    Messages:
    922
    Likes Received:
    159
    My safes are to keep my measly collection of mostly modern guns out of the hands of your average opportunistic tweaker or dumb a$$ burglar . I don't have the any rare or well known collector firearms that someone would target me for. most people who know how to get into safes would not be looking at me. I'm more worried about fire cause the dip sticks trying to get my safes open would most likely set fire to the house trying.
     
  9. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,491
    Likes Received:
    705
    I think the free insurance is just the NRA's way of giving the insurance co a chance to call the member so as to try & get more money from you, of course the NRA gets a share/kickback too, I expect
     
  10. Spitpatch

    Spitpatch Forest Grove, Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,801
    Likes Received:
    836
    Okay. So: are we talking safe integrity, or NRA insurance integrity? I have safes. I also have NRA's (membership-supplied) insurance. Two points to offer:

    1) A gun safe is a metal box. Persons equipped to enter a metal box will enter that metal box very quickly. (Safes thwart unprepared thieves. The largest propensity of thieves are unprepared.) DO NOT believe that your "high-dollar" safe, purporting stronger lock mechanisms, drill-proof lock, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum is any deterrent to an equipped person. They will not deal with the door or the lock. They will deal with the wall thickness, and deal with it in short order. FIRE PREVENTION is a good addtitional investment.

    2) The NRA insurance is just like any other insurance. I hate it. It is a "scam" just like any other insurance is a "scam". You bet against yourself, put your money up, hope for the best, while your return comes with the worst. Read your policy, place your bet. Same as you do with your car, your home, your life. Chances are, THEY (the insurance company) wins. This is the basis for their industry. Occasionally, you come out ahead. You NEVER come out ahead on things that have irreplaceable value: your home, guns you hold dear and lives. If the NRA is willing to offer some form of insurance with their membership at no additonal fee, I will (and have) consider it a plus, with reading the policy, and understanding the coverage. I would not buy additional insurance endorsed by them without comparing other offerings, and reading those policies (this is common sense). NO insurance is risk-based for price. Insurance is profit-based for price. I need only to examine my coverage for numerous vehicles, priced as if I drive all of them at once to know this. Insurance is at the base level a gambler's venture, stacked at the bookie's benefit. It has paid off for me, but only when I fight for what I have read and know to be my agreement. Fortunately, I place my bet with a bookie that holds my reputation for longevity, and will not relinquish my longevity by denying a claim. We both come to the settlement table with this knowledge, and so far, he has not failed to recognize my continued placement of my bet.

    I have never collected on a claim from NRA's insurance, but I did file once. I lost my extra cylinder for my Ruger Single Six. NRA was willing to cover it. In the period during which I obtained the forms and filled them out, I located the cylinder. (My fault entirely: I had merely misplaced it). This is my entire experience with them, but a favorable one, even though not seen to fruition. Small potatoes, but with a short narrative supplied, they were willing. I would have won the bet.
     
  11. Jammer Six

    Jammer Six North Greenlake, Seattle New Member

    Messages:
    949
    Likes Received:
    312
    A safe stops curious teenagers and fire and qualifies you for good insurance rates. That's about it.

    If I want your guns, your safe won't matter, and I'm not a pro.

    Insurance is the right answer for burglars.
     
  12. Spitpatch

    Spitpatch Forest Grove, Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,801
    Likes Received:
    836
    Okay. (again)

    I clicked on the link (admittedly after my initial post). Fast talking guy with multiple genital-oriented forward written displays shows his all-modern firearm ownership photographic display,and basically recommends shopping for insurance. Wow! Who'd uv ever thunken'd it?

    And the merit badge for displaying the obvious (with unnecessary groin-oriented attempts at humor) goes to.....
     
  13. lonegunman

    lonegunman Eastern Washington Active Member

    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    129
    The Historic Firearms, Collectibles and Sporting Arms program at Eastern Insurance

    Most renters and homeowners insurance has a $5,000 max coverage. If you own a couple of rifles then you are probably ok. The annual cost for decent insurance is less than one cheap gun.

    Regarding the NRA, they offer 1/3rd the coverage for the same price as these guys and the NRA is miserable to deal with and has lousy customer service. If you are spending the money, buy good service. I tried them for a year, I had to call to renew, got threatened with a cancel if I did not "hurry up" and got smart comments from a gender challenged loser. So I went elsewhere.
     
  14. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

    Messages:
    4,833
    Likes Received:
    1,742
    I honestly don't remember talking to you, but I am sure you said something to get me riled up.
     
  15. VW_Factor

    VW_Factor Woodburn Oregon Active Member

    Messages:
    649
    Likes Received:
    101
    Insure anything that is important to you.
     
  16. PBinWA

    PBinWA Clark County Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    359
    I just added them to my Homeowners insurance. It wasn't that expensive. I just update the list whenever I renew.
     
  17. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,089
    Likes Received:
    1,310
    So free insurance offered by the NRA is a scam? Sure it's not much but still free is a good price.
     
  18. WAYNO

    WAYNO Oregon City Gold Supporter Gold Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    861
    Likes Received:
    1,071
    I guess folks, including me, see what they want to see. I don't think the intention of this thread really has anything to do with insurance, but is an excuse to bash the NRA.



    I've found that the premium on my NRA insurance is a bargain, compared to a rider on my homeowners policy. I also very much like not having to itemize the guns I have insured thru NRA Armscare.

    WAYNO.
     
  19. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,089
    Likes Received:
    1,310
    I should look into that. We carry a couple riders for fine art and collectables now.
     
  20. lonegunman

    lonegunman Eastern Washington Active Member

    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    129


    That happens a lot these days. It seems like every fairy and pixie is upset over something in the forest.


    The good news is that my money spends just fine everywhere else.