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Now's your chance: Define 'Gun Violence'

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dave Workman, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Gun owners plan to attend Town Hall Seattle meet on urban violence

    Puget Sound area gun rights activists have circled Monday, June 18 on their calendars and are planning to attend a meeting at Seattle’s Town Hall to address the city’s sharp spike in urban violence.

    Gun owners plan to attend Town Hall Seattle meet on urban violence - Seattle gun rights | Examiner.com


    Let's get right down to it: We hear the term "gun violence" all the time. So, what IS it, really?
    (feel free to forward the link to all your pals so they can weigh in, too.)

    How do you define ‘gun violence?’

    A crazed home-invader shot dead in North Bend after repeated warnings from the homeowner that he was armed; an ex-boyfriend killed by a Michigan woman as he was trying to strangle her; an image of Australian athletes in a United States gun shop holding shotguns and handguns for a photo; are these all examples of so-called “gun violence?”

    How do you define
     
  2. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Is it time to ratchet down on ‘cane violence?’

    A Texas woman beats her neighbor with a cane, a Brooklyn man is robbed and beaten with a cane in front of a hospital, South Carolina police taser a nude octogenarian who attacked them with a “walking stick,” a California man dies after a fight involving his own metal cane, and in Seattle on Monday, they’re having a meeting on “gun violence.”

    Is it time to ratchet down on
     
  3. Rascals

    Rascals Portland Or Active Member

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    More people every year die from Assult chairs then rifles but they dont ban chairs. Same with cars and many other things but they leave them. Funny they only want to get rid of the things that we can defend ourselfs with not what does the most damage.
     
  4. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    there is no such thing as "gun Violence". Guns are inanimate objects. I have never seen one that could just get up on it's own and do anything.
     
  5. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If the act is illegal how can the method matter?

    Is a person fed arsenic less dead then one shot in the head with a 9?
     
  6. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Assault ladders too. The #1 most dangerous non-powered tool.
     
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  7. 97321

    97321 Albany Active Member

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    Try working on public roads. Assault vehicles scare me more than anything.
     
  8. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    They haven't the foggiest idea how to stop the "gang violence" so they need a scapegoat...
     
  9. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    In all my years I have NEVER seen or met a violent gun!!
     
  10. lowly monk

    lowly monk Beaverton, Oregon. Just a guy. Bronze Supporter

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  11. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    Two guns walk into a bar.....I forget the rest.
     
  12. 2506

    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    I keep telling all the soccer moms in my 'hood that their pool is deadlier than any gun I own.
     
  13. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    "Gun violence" is when I stab a mother****** for dropping my Garand.
     
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  14. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    no, no...dropping your Garand is violence, stabbing the perp is justice
     
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  15. duldej

    duldej Portland Member

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    Gun violence= Exercise of poor discretion by a person that was in control of a gun, and that resulted in serious damage to a victim. really, "gun violence" is a often a misnomer that is equivalent to "car violence," but that involved a gun instead of a car, and which would make "vehicular manslaughter" turn into "gun-related manslaughter." It's because of a moral panic that it is gun violence and not gun violence. Only in cases like the Ford Pinto from 1978, or the Corvair from before that does the car come under a similar microscope.

    Liberals like to blame the gun, but what about the discretion of the legal owner of the gun? 'leads me to believe that liberals are wacky and don't trust themselves with their own toys.

    There are certain measures that can be taken to control gun violence, like prohibiting from buying a gun those that are documented to be unsafe with guns, or those who commit criminal offenses using a gun, but what is the issue is the discretion of the individual, and not the gun, per sé. If not, then there should be far fewer drivers on the road because cars would then cause a lot of crime.
     
  16. 8ball

    8ball WA Quit talkin' and start chalking!

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    So, beyond quips, did anyone actually attend?
     
  17. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Yeah, I'm rather disappointed with some of the reactions to a serious question that is going to plague us, and if we don't get a grip on it, it just might get a grip on us.
     
  18. SivilSavage

    SivilSavage U.S.A. New Member

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    Gun violence is a general term that should be broken down into 2 categories. Criminal gun violence and NECESSARY gun violence.
     
  19. DCKilla

    DCKilla Wet Side, WA Member

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  20. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that there is no such thing as "gun" violence, and the anti gun group knows that fact. They are taking a page out of AG Holder's book about "brain washing" people with respect to guns.

    There is no way to address such a silly concept seriously.