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Novel Coronavirus 2019 (2019 n-CoV).

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[link to www.nhc.gov.cn]

1. Zeng XX, male, 61 years old, has a history of liver cirrhosis and myxoma.
2. Xiong XX, male, 69 years old
3. Wang XX, male, 89 years old, has a history of hypertension, cerebral infarction, and cerebral softening
4. Patient Chen X, male, 89 years old, had previous hypertension, diabetes, coronary heart disease, frequent premature ventricular contractions, and coronary stent implantation.
5. Li XX, male, 66 years old, previously had COPD, hypertension, type 2 diabetes, chronic renal insufficiency, ascending aortic artificial aorta replacement in 2007, abdominal aortic stent placement in 2017, Cholecystectomy, multiple organ damage.
6. Wang XX, male, 75 years old. Previous history of hypertension and hip arthroplasty.
7. Yin XX, female, 48 years old, had previous diabetes and cerebral infarction (stroke).
8. Liu XX, male, 82 years old,
9. Luo XX, male, 66 years old.
10. Zhang XX, male, 81 years old.
11. Zhang XX, female, 82 years old, has a history of Parkinson's disease for 5 years, orally takes Medopa.
12. week XX, male, 65 years old,
13. Hu XX, female, 80 years old. history of hypertension for more than 20 years, a history of diabetes for more than 20 years, and a history of Parkinson's disease.
14. Lei XX, male, 53 years old.
15. Wang XX, male, 86 years old, No fever, diabetic hypertension, and colon cancer 4 years after surgery
16. Yuan XX, female, 70 years old.
17. Zhan XX, male, 84 years old. Previous history of chronic bronchitis, unstable angina pectoris, coronary stenting, hypertension, gastrointestinal bleeding, renal insufficiency, hyperlipidemia, hyperuricemia, lacunar cerebral infarction.
 

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Hey, get old and the grim reaper is always juuuuussssssst around the corner - my wife started started talking to funeral homes today, checking on the cost of cremation...not kidding.

She thought I was exaggerating how much less cost it is compared to being planted. Locally around $7000.00 for an average funeral and internment. I don't think she asked about a headstone as I don't know if that's included, but I digress...

She's now a believer.

$640.00 for a turn key job, as in, pick up my cold dead body, transport it to the crematory, turn on the gas jet and poof, no more me and they'll provide a death certificate too by crackee.

So, if I croak from this latest potential pandemic, it'll be the cost of a new Glock to get rid of my carcass.

Pretty good deal...so I ain't skeered a no Mexican beer sounding virus, I got plans...
 
To those who haven't seen it, Contagion (2011) is an interesting picture. It was praised in more than one medical journal for its accuracy. My take away?

Positive:

  • A contagion can happen hard and fast. History is replete with examples.
  • I'm glad we live really rural and remote and can hole up away from major population centers.
  • International travel can be the jumping point.
  • Being prepared before it goes down is better than not.
  • Dads jump in when it goes down.
  • Teenagers need to be watched closely.
  • Guns, obviously, need to be on hand before it goes down. (The main character had to find one after.)
  • Conspiracy theorists are stupid and unethical.
Negative:
  • I don't believe, even remotely, that the federal government could even barely be competent in such an event.
 
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I am not worried about the wife and i. I am concerned for our young infant:eek:

@thereddog. Thanks for the video.

We are already hyper clean, but will avoid taking him and ourselves out in crowds until this burns out or is contained.
 

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Congradulations for the kid and condolances for the sleep are in order! Haha
Hahaha. Its partly why I'm reducing the amount of gear I have :)
 
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A virus with a 10% fatality rate but a 3 week incubation period thats airborne could statistically be more deadly than a 40% fatality virus with a week incubation rate that isn't airborne

This is because the rate of reproduction might be higher, as viruses that are too fatal and don't spread easy might not have as much opportunity to spread.

This is why ebola isn't super concerning unless it becomes airborne.

alphacorona viruses (common cold) are rapidly mutating viruses spread by coughing and sneezing and touch and thus any new corona virus species/strain that is similar to the common cold its potentially very dangerous.



[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Yi Guan is a Chinese virologist who, in 2014, was ranked as 11th in the world by Thomson Reuters (now known as Clarivate Analytics)[1] among global researchers in the field of microbiology. His research on the viral respiratory disease SARS allowed the Chinese government to successfully avert the 2004 outbreak of this disease.[2] He is the current Director (China affairs)[3] of the State Key Laboratory for Emerging Infectious Diseases University of Hong Kong.[4] In early 2017, Guan warned that the H7N9 influenza virus "poses the greatest threat to humanity than any other in the past 100 years."[5]

100 years ago it was the 'Spanish Flu' that started at a US military base in the southern US. Same program, different WMD.
It killed 50-100 Million.
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I remember vividly the major Flu epidemic we had in the U.S. back in 1960 because it killed my Grandmother and the Flu back then was very different than it is today. Back then we had TWO kinds: Respiratory and Stomach types. The first was like what we have now that involves fever, headaches, muscle aches and a loss of appetite and overall stamina. The stomach variety was what we ALL dreaded because you had all the other symptoms PLUS vomiting. That was after the virus progressed into a bacteria-base infection and entered the GI-tract. And a combo of the two could easily lead right into Pneumonia. As I said, it killed my Grandmother.

Back then, school closings were mandatory and people were advised to stay home unless travel was essential; flu vaccines were NOT pushed by health agencies because they knew they wouldn't work anyway and considered to be a just waste of time and money. Instead, research money was still going to Polio and they didn't even have an oral vaccine for that until 1962. I still remember getting my painful shot as a little kid in the mid-50's and still have the now-faded scar to prove it.

BTW: I haven't taken a flu shot in over 30 years and will NEVER do so again. I much prefer two other protocols that actually WORK: 1. maintain a good immune system by limiting the crap I eat, boosting my body with nutrients [Garlic really IS a wonder drug!], drinking lots of pure water and getting LOTS of rest. 2. I avoid crowds and expose myself to infection as little as possible. [This is where my prepping comes in since I don't have to run to the store for every little thing].

When in a store and I spot someone ahead sniffling or coughing, I immediately turn around and go down a different aisle. If someone does it near me, I just take a quick, shallow breath and I don't inhale until I'm well past them... instead I slowly exhale to limit anything from entering my nasal passages. As a result I haven't had even a head cold for over ten years!

Even so, I've stocked face masks [N100's] in my first aid kit for decades and use Nitrile gloves around the house like a clinician. BTW: I'm a retired USPS Bio-Hazard Specialist and BOTH of those little items will be worth their weight in GOLD if something really breaks out with this strain.
Trust me on this: if the death toll in the U.S. hits 100, invest the twenty bucks and buy yourself a box of each!


 
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Man I try not to get too spooled up all the time, but I'm gonna swing by home depot on lunch and buy some more masks and gloves. Screw this.
 

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This looks pretty serious... God forbid the people take the day off
Could become serious. Worth monitoring, and always maintain good hygiene.

Where would better hygiene of the populous be easier to maintain?

Thailand, where you purport to be vacationing, or ANY vacation destination in the USA?

So, if you buy into your own hype & hysteria, please stay there until this blows over. Why risk bringing it back & sharing it?
 
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Always a reasonable idea to have such at hand for any number of reasons, don’t let hype override common sense though.
Well I have been needing some nitrilr gloves for cleaning guns anyway, so I just tripled the order I was gonna make and I'll use them eventually, and/or keep a box in the "emergency bin"

Bought some hand sanitizer, which is always good to have, and a 10 pack of n95 masks, which I use in summer when weedwhacking anyway. Nothing too crazy, just pre-emptive.

I found this article which I found interesting and relevant. In my experience chinese people are horrible about washing their hands, so the silly masks they were don't really help.

 

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Well I have been needing some nitrilr gloves for cleaning guns anyway, so I just tripled the order I was gonna make and I'll use them eventually, and/or keep a box in the "emergency bin"

Bought some hand sanitizer, which is always good to have, and a 10 pack of n95 masks, which I use in summer when weedwhacking anyway. Nothing too crazy, just pre-emptive.

I found this article which I found interesting and relevant. In my experience chinese people are horrible about washing their hands, so the silly masks they were don't really help.

Ad in simple topical isopropyl alcohol. In standard bottles & spray mist bottles*. Normally less expensive than Purell & such.

*used to be able to buy spray/mist bottles at Walgreens & such. Dunno if still available or not. We bought a bunch off of Amazon a while back, as at that time pharmacies were out of stock.

Use spray/mist as you would hand sani. We keep them all over, truck, suv, kitchen, baths, range bags etc.

Sprays are similar to these:

https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Brand-Antiseptic-Isopropyl-Alcohol/dp/B07CJQFJH2/ref=pd_sbs_121_1/140-7042143-9442460?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07CJQFJH2&pd_rd_r=93f0fe0a-6630-4a37-849b-7e15e67af573&pd_rd_w=9o7Kx&pd_rd_wg=yuexP&pf_rd_p=bdd201df-734f-454e-883c-73b0d8ccd4c3&pf_rd_r=ADTBPDS6G5XJ9DEC55FR&psc=1&refRID=ADTBPDS6G5XJ9DEC55FR&tag=link-nwfa-20

Caution, better value may be available. Just grabbed a random example.

Also, perfectly fine to refill with 70% bulk (Costco as an example), or mix 90% (pharmacy bottles) with 70%, as we normally do.
 
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