Notarize, what to expect?

djaziatic · Jan 26, 2015

I just purchased a bronze trust. I hear I can notarize it at a bank? What exactly goes through the notarization process? Do they actually read the trust and is there a fee associated with it? Thanks ahead of time.

solv3nt · Jan 26, 2015

A notary will typically read over whatever document that they are about to notarize. If you go to your bank, they will typically notarize for free. It may cost you otherwise.

djaziatic · Jan 26, 2015

solv3nt said:
A notary will typically read over whatever document that they are about to notarize. If you go to your bank, they will typically notarize for free. It may cost you otherwise.

Thanks, appreciate the response!

solv3nt · Jan 26, 2015

I don't actually bank with WF, but I have a safe deposit with them. I made sure to access my box before requesting a notary. I had an interesting conversation with the notary when he realized I was buying an M1 through the CMP; he let me know that his dad is a prepper that owns lots of guns. I felt a little strange having a conversation about guns in a bank.

B5Ben · Jan 26, 2015

I bet that was a little awkward.

BlindedByScience · Jan 26, 2015

I belong to a credit union. Took my bronze trust in and they notarized it with a smile, no problem and no questions. Same thing when I upgraded to the silver trust. Of course you need to sign it in front of the notary.....which is what they are notarizing; the date you signed the trust.

Good luck, though you shouldn't need any....

cmica · Jan 26, 2015

go to keybank and do it free too.

spectra · Jan 26, 2015

I belong to a credit union also and I just took one page of my trust with me and it was all good. I sighned it in front of her and she did her thing. It was free and took maybe 5 mins of my time.

PDXSparky · Jan 28, 2015

Same as BlindedByScience and spectra, took mine to my CU where notary service is one of the benefits of membership. The whole point of having the trust notarized is that the notary verifies that you are who you say you are and that you have signed it in their presence.

djaziatic · Jan 28, 2015

When purchasing an NFA item do I have to bring my trust to the gun shop?

SCARed · Jan 28, 2015

Not unless the gun shop is sending in your paperwork for you.

Nick Burkhardt · Jan 29, 2015

I have had docs notarized at our local Title and Escrow company for free. They just copied the title and our info in their notary book, not the whole contract.

PDXSparky · Jan 30, 2015

SCARed said:
Not unless the gun shop is sending in your paperwork for you.

I've never had a shop send in the paperwork for me.

spectra · Jan 30, 2015

Only on a eform has a shop sent in paper work.

djaziatic · Jan 31, 2015

spectra said:
Only on a eform has a shop sent in paper work.

Thanks for the heads up.

jbett98 · Jan 31, 2015

Another thing to consider when you fill out your schedule "A" list is to put "Pending"
under the "Date Stamp Issued.
Then, when you're stamp arrives you go back and enter the date the stamp was approved.
When you buy another NFA item you send in your revised trust showing all of the ATF approved items
with their approved dates.
I messed up the first time, but the ATF didn't catch it and the counter guys at Curt's caught my mistake when I was submitting another form 4.

Should look like this:

Description of Property ------------------ Serial#/Caliber ------------- Date Stamp Issued

1. A.A.C. 762-SDN-6 Suppressor ----- S/N N12345 / Cal 7.62 ------------ Pending

SCARed · Jan 31, 2015

PDXSparky said:
I've never had a shop send in the paperwork for me.

Neither have I, but I've heard of and have seen people on here report they have.
I've also seen people post that their dealer charged them the $200 for the stamp and then cut a check and sent the paperwork in for them. That's paper, not efile.

SCARed · Jan 31, 2015

jbett98 said:
Another thing to consider when you fill out your schedule "A" list is to put "Pending"
under the "Date Stamp Issued.
Then, when you're stamp arrives you go back and enter the date the stamp was approved.
When you buy another NFA item you send in your revised trust showing all of the ATF approved items
with their approved dates.
I messed up the first time, but the ATF didn't catch it and the counter guys at Curt's caught my mistake when I was submitting another form 4.

Should look like this:

Description of Property ------------------ Serial#/Caliber ------------- Date Stamp Issued

1. A.A.C. 762-SDN-6 Suppressor ----- S/N N12345 / Cal 7.62 ------------ Pending

The ATF doesn't care if it's updated or not. Many people just send in their initial schedule A for every submission they do.
Likewise, the "pending" status on submission is completely unnecessary.

jbett98 · Jan 31, 2015

There is more than one acceptable process.

My personal preference is to list the item from the Form 4 (or Form 1 for SBR's) on the Schedule A as follows:

Suppressor/SBR Make, Model, Serial Number (Form 1/4 submitted waiting approval).

I prefer this method as it shows the item as an asset of the trust pending BATFE approval.
If I were to pass away while the package is with the BATFE office, the Schedule A would accurately reflect the items owned by the trust and the Trustee would be better able to execute their duties.