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Notarize, what to expect?

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by djaziatic, Jan 26, 2015.

  1. djaziatic

    djaziatic Portland, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I just purchased a bronze trust. I hear I can notarize it at a bank? What exactly goes through the notarization process? Do they actually read the trust and is there a fee associated with it? Thanks ahead of time.
     
  2. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    A notary will typically read over whatever document that they are about to notarize. If you go to your bank, they will typically notarize for free. It may cost you otherwise.
     
  3. djaziatic

    djaziatic Portland, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Thanks, appreciate the response!
     
  4. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    I don't actually bank with WF, but I have a safe deposit with them. I made sure to access my box before requesting a notary. I had an interesting conversation with the notary when he realized I was buying an M1 through the CMP; he let me know that his dad is a prepper that owns lots of guns. I felt a little strange having a conversation about guns in a bank.
     
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  5. B5Ben

    B5Ben Boise Well-Known Member

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    I bet that was a little awkward.
     
  6. BlindedByScience

    BlindedByScience Vancouver WA Well-Known Member

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    I belong to a credit union. Took my bronze trust in and they notarized it with a smile, no problem and no questions. Same thing when I upgraded to the silver trust. Of course you need to sign it in front of the notary.....which is what they are notarizing; the date you signed the trust.

    Good luck, though you shouldn't need any....:cool:
     
  7. cmica

    cmica puy Active Member

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    go to keybank and do it free too.
     
  8. spectra

    spectra The Couve Moderator Staff Member

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    I belong to a credit union also and I just took one page of my trust with me and it was all good. I sighned it in front of her and she did her thing. It was free and took maybe 5 mins of my time.
     
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  9. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Same as BlindedByScience and spectra, took mine to my CU where notary service is one of the benefits of membership. The whole point of having the trust notarized is that the notary verifies that you are who you say you are and that you have signed it in their presence.
     
  10. djaziatic

    djaziatic Portland, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    When purchasing an NFA item do I have to bring my trust to the gun shop?
     
  11. SCARed

    SCARed Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Not unless the gun shop is sending in your paperwork for you.
     
  12. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I have had docs notarized at our local Title and Escrow company for free. They just copied the title and our info in their notary book, not the whole contract.
     
  13. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    I've never had a shop send in the paperwork for me.
     
  14. spectra

    spectra The Couve Moderator Staff Member

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    Only on a eform has a shop sent in paper work.
     
  15. djaziatic

    djaziatic Portland, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Thanks for the heads up.
     
  16. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Another thing to consider when you fill out your schedule "A" list is to put "Pending"
    under the "Date Stamp Issued.
    Then, when you're stamp arrives you go back and enter the date the stamp was approved.
    When you buy another NFA item you send in your revised trust showing all of the ATF approved items
    with their approved dates.
    I messed up the first time, but the ATF didn't catch it and the counter guys at Curt's caught my mistake when I was submitting another form 4.

    Should look like this:

    Description of Property ------------------ Serial#/Caliber ------------- Date Stamp Issued

    1. A.A.C. 762-SDN-6 Suppressor ----- S/N N12345 / Cal 7.62 ------------ Pending
     
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  17. SCARed

    SCARed Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Neither have I, but I've heard of and have seen people on here report they have.
    I've also seen people post that their dealer charged them the $200 for the stamp and then cut a check and sent the paperwork in for them. That's paper, not efile.
     
  18. SCARed

    SCARed Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    The ATF doesn't care if it's updated or not. Many people just send in their initial schedule A for every submission they do.
    Likewise, the "pending" status on submission is completely unnecessary.
     
  19. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    There is more than one acceptable process.

    My personal preference is to list the item from the Form 4 (or Form 1 for SBR's) on the Schedule A as follows:

    Suppressor/SBR Make, Model, Serial Number (Form 1/4 submitted waiting approval).

    I prefer this method as it shows the item as an asset of the trust pending BATFE approval.
    If I were to pass away while the package is with the BATFE office, the Schedule A would accurately reflect the items owned by the trust and the Trustee would be better able to execute their duties.